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and taxing all income. At least in germany incoming from work is much more heavily taxed than income from financial transactions ( stock, rent etc.) which also helpd the wealthy because the middle class and lower simply have their sole income from their labour

Capital gains & Inherited wealth needs to be looked at. Very unpopular, but would make a difference.

We should look at tax, but it's what we do with it as well, I think we should go down the universal income route.
 
We’ve now passed €2 a litre for petrol. I think that’s about €10 for one of your gallons. And that’s with a 20c temporary excise cut. Kinda scary because I don’t think we are close to peaking.
We are no where near to the peak. Analysts are suggesting that we are going to see $6/gallon.

And I absolutely agree that the metric system is the way to go.
 
We are no where near to the peak. Analysts are suggesting that we are going to see $6/gallon.

And I absolutely agree that the metric system is the way to go.

Boris is bring back Imperial weights and measure to appeal to the nostalgic Brexit voters. I honestly thought it was an April fools when I first read the headline.
 
Most of it is in tax thought, they'll have to drop the tax until the prices normalise.

I hope so. We’ve already had an excise drop that has more than been surpassed again by the rises so who knows!

It really does piss me off that it’s always the small scale consumer that pays the price in carbon tax or that has to spend either on tax to radically change their habits. Especially as it’s the second or third time that money has been taxed on top of the myriad taxes we’re already paying on it as income. Meanwhile governments do nothing and large corporations pump out the vast majority of the harmful emissions with little disincentive.
 
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I hope so. We’ve already had an excise drop that has more than been surpassed again by the excise rises so who knows!

It really does piss me off that it’s always the small scale consumer that pays the price in carbon tax or that has to spend either on tax to radically change their habits. Especially as it’s the second or third time that money has been taxed on top of the myriad taxes we’re already paying on it as income. Meanwhile governments do nothing and large corporations pump out the vast majority of the harmful emissions with little disincentive.
It´s always good to look at the history of the term " carbon footprint" which wasinveted by a marketing firm for a bp campaign to suggest that the climate crisis is the result of individual livestyle choices and has nothing to do with big corporations
 
Boris is bring back Imperial weights and measure to appeal to the nostalgic Brexit voters. I honestly thought it was an April fools when I first read the headline.

Don’t you know that a pint of milk/beer tastes so much nicer than 568ml of it…

I kinda get sticking with miles given the huge logistical change that would entail but the rest is just nonsense. Also, even after 15 years over here I just don’t like kilometres for some unknown reason…
 
Don’t you know that a pint of milk/beer tastes so much nicer than 568ml of it…

I kinda get sticking with miles given the huge logistical change that would entail but the rest is just nonsense. Also, even after 15 years over here I just don’t like kilometres for some unknown reason…

I get sticking with miles but it's just a transition, adjusting to something new from what we are used to. The fact we measure MPG & only buy petrol in litres is insane. I sort if think it would all be better with Kilometres.

But Boris isn't changing any of that. We still have pints & miles. He's saying we should go back to shops selling in pounds an ounces. Just when we all got used to Kilograms. (Without bags of sugar we would all be lost)
 
I get sticking with miles but it's just a transition, adjusting to something new from what we are used to. The fact we measure MPG & only buy petrol in litres is insane. I sort if think it would all be better with Kilometres.

But Boris isn't changing any of that. We still have pints & miles. He's saying we should go back to shops selling in pounds an ounces. Just when we all got used to Kilograms. (Without bags of sugar we would all be lost)

I think miles to km is more a cost thing, the intial cost would be pretty high and being an island makes it that big less imperative than a continental country with multiple boarder crossings. And even then it’s not that difficult, my first car here came over with me and you very soon have the maths done and stuck in your head for speed limits.

For the rest it’s not like in metric a pub can’t sell a pint of beer too, or even a dairy keep the glass pint bottles of milk, it’s just metric is a more sensible measure for standardisation. But for Boris it’s just like bend bananas and blue passports, typical diversionary nonsense appealing to the mail and express readership.

That said, I’ll be dammed if you’re stealing 68ml off me every time I got to the bar 😉.
 
We are no where near to the peak. Analysts are suggesting that we are going to see $6/gallon.

Biden won't let that happen. He'll ban oil exports and keep everything you produce for the US which will bring down your prices but worsen the crises in the rest of the world.
 
Biden won't let that happen. He'll ban oil exports and keep everything you produce for the US which will bring down your prices but worsen the crises in the rest of the world.

It's a bit more difficult than that. America is dependent on oil imports given the refining infrastructure they have. Although they can produce enough oil to be independent it would take a lot of effort & time to make that happen.

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As if we didn't need another reason to hate this guy...

As Dan Price said, forcing workers back into the office who can work just as efficiently at home is all about control / power over employees.

Also not mentioned in this article is that this soon could mean employees need to relocate.

Elon Musk was displeased with stay at home orders in California in 2020 and announced he would move the corporate offices to Texas. If that's still in play and he expects everyone to move with the office this is even worse.
 
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As if we didn't need another reason to hate this guy...

As Dan Price said, forcing workers back into the office who can work just as efficiently at home is all about control / power over employees.

Also not mentioned in this article is that this soon could mean employees need to relocate.

Elon Musk was displeased with stay at home orders in California in 2020 and announced he would move the corporate offices to Texas. If that's still in play and he expects everyone to move with the office this is even worse.
What a dumb asshole. Not quite as dumb as the bootlickers in the comments/mentions asking what the problem is. People are so damn brainwashed by capitalism.
 
What a dumb asshole. Not quite as dumb as the bootlickers in the comments/mentions asking what the problem is. People are so damn brainwashed by capitalism.


You should see the comments on my state reps FB posts asking to repeal the gas tax out in CA while not looking at the record high oil profits.
 
What a dumb asshole. Not quite as dumb as the bootlickers in the comments/mentions asking what the problem is. People are so damn brainwashed by capitalism.

Yeah, I have seen a lot of "we had to suffer through going into the office so should you mentality" from Boomers.

Why can't things change over time. Why does it have to be "If I did it so should you" rather than adapt to a new normal if it's just as productive and produces a better healthier work life balance for employees.
 
Yeah, I have seen a lot of "we had to suffer through going into the office so should you mentality" from Boomers.

Why can't things change over time. Why does it have to be "If I did it so should you" rather than adapt to a new normal if it's just as productive and produces a better healthier work life balance for employees.
I don’t even know if it’s generational; in my professional life I’ve constantly run into coworkers and managers my own age who believe you’re only of use if you’re physically in your desk from 8 to 5, and get flustered if I intimate that my employer owes me for my time/work rather than the other way around. You see it in the “hustle culture” approach of millennials working multiple jobs or monetizing their hobbies, as well as in the “we are a family, stay here long hours because there’s free food and ping pong” cult of startups. I see it in the way my peers struggle to feel “okay” doing little with their time, or engaging in projects or activities with no immediate or concrete goal.

A year or two ago, I was talking to my bro and sis in-law, and they were discussing a family friend who relocated. Their employer cut their pay; since they were moving from an expensive city to a cheaper one, the company was only willing to pay based on cost of living, rather than continuing the salary they’d rewarded this loyal employee with (this person had been with the company at least five years, keep in mind). I said that it seemed unfair to only pay someone based on how much you think it costs to keep them alive, that it’s deeply cynical. They looked at me like I’d grown a second head. I get that it’d be unfair if I got hired in an expensive city and immediately moved to a cheaper state, specifically to game the system, but it still strikes me as a commodification of a human being and their quality of living.

Young or old, people have developed intense Stockholm Syndrome towards a system that views them as products, only as valuable as the capital they generate for their employers.
 
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I don’t even know if it’s generational; in my professional life I’ve constantly run into coworkers and managers my own age who believe you’re only of use if you’re physically in your desk from 8 to 5, and get flustered if I intimate that my employer owes me for my time/work rather than the other way around. You see it in the “hustle culture” approach of millennials working multiple jobs or monetizing their hobbies, as well as in the “we are a family, stay here long hours because there’s free food and ping pong” cult of startups. I see it in the way my peers struggle to feel “okay” doing little with their time, or engaging in projects or activities with no immediate or concrete goal.

A year or two ago, I was talking to my bro and sis in-law, and they were discussing a family friend who relocated. Their employer cut their pay; since they were moving from an expensive city to a cheaper one, the company was only willing to pay based on cost of living, rather than continuing the salary they’d rewarded this loyal employee with (this person had been with the company at least five years, keep in mind). I said that it seemed unfair to only pay someone based on how much you think it costs to keep them alive, that it’s deeply cynical. They looked at me like I’d grown a second head. I get that it’d be unfair if I got hired in an expensive city and immediately moved to a cheaper state, specifically to game the system, but it still strikes me as a commodification of a human being and their quality of living.

Young or old, people have developed intense Stockholm Syndrome towards a system that views them as products, only as valuable as the capital they generate for their employers.


Did this person’s productivity decrease as a result of moving to another city? I don’t think so. There is no way I would have accepted that unless there was some personal reason I wanted to move.
 
Did this person’s productivity decrease as a result of moving to another city? I don’t think so. There is no way I would have accepted that unless there was some personal reason I wanted to move.
I believe they were a single parent moving closer to family. At least as I heard it, this offer from the company was presented as a courtesy; they had no obligation to acquiesce to the relocation. As framed by my in-laws, this was the company being accommodating. From where I sit it lays bare how employees are viewed via the lens of how much they cost the company, not how much value they add to it.
 
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