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Joe Mac said:
I think they’re cutting out the party members this time. The last time the MPs zeroed it down to 2 and the membership picked the one. The Tory membership is like the zany extremist corner at the weird right wing church hall coffee morning that is the Tory party at large. The MPs will pick a much more savvy political operator but whether they will be eaten alive by the right wing again is another matter altogether.
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Looks like they keep the members vote in but like to keep the fringe candidates the basis like out by setting the bar high by having the support of 100 mps to be a contender
Liz Truss quits: candidates to be prime minister must have at least 100 nominations from Tory MPs – live

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Andrew Sparrow
Earlier today Ladbrokes had Rishi Sunak as favourite to become the next Tory leader, on 5/6. The next favourite candidates were (in order) Penny Mordaunt, Boris Johnson and Ben Wallace.

The rules announced by the party for the contest are unlikely to shift Sunak from the top spot. The key decision is the requirement for candidates to be nominated by 100 MPs, making it unlikely that Johnson will be able to stand as a candidate. In a ballot of members, Johnson would win, and there are bound to be claims that the threshold has deliberately been set this high to keep him out of the contest.

It is also hard to see a rightwing candidate, such as Suella Braverman or Kemi Badenoch, getting 100 nominations.

You can see the results of every round of voting in the summer contest here. Sunak got 137 votes in the final ballot, and he should have no problem getting 100 nominations by Monday – particularly since his economic warnings from the summer have been vindicated. Mordaunt got 105 votes in the final round, and she is certainly a contender too – not least because her parliamentary performance on Monday impressed many colleagues.

But in the summer Wallace was not standing. This time he has indicated he is interested, and it conceivable that he could get 100 nominations as a non-Sunak candidate instead of, or as well as, Mordaunt.

It is equally possible that, if the leading figures struggle to get 100 names, they could all end up backing the frontrunner, who at the moment is Sunak. This is what some Tories want. (See 5.41pm.)

If members do end up having to choose between one of Sunak, Mordaunt or Wallace, recent YouGov polling suggests they will go for Sunak.
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Jan said:
Looks like they keep the members vote in but like to keep the fringe candidates the basis like out by setting the bar high by having the support of 100 mps to be a contender
Liz Truss quits: candidates to be prime minister must have at least 100 nominations from Tory MPs – live
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Yeah I heard that was almost entirely designed to keep Boris out because the members would totally back him against anyone. They aren’t going to allow that to happen and have the entire focus on him being investigated for lying to Parliament amplified by the spotlight of being the sitting PM.
 
Meanwhile, the outgoing Premier of my province stormed out of his likely final media scrum in a hissy fit huff today, putting the perfect signature on his smug suburban paternalistic term in office that was filled with nothing but contempt and scorn for anybody who thought or wanted differently than himself. Good riddance.
 
Lee Newman said:
Tudor Dixon? Clearly MIchigan is being punked. That can't actually be her name.
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I wish. She's awful. But the other five candidates were all DQd for a signature harvesting scam.
Whitmer has done a good job as governor, all considered, but it won't matter. Dixon is on the anti-trans anti-abortion platform and that will carry her far.
In her commercials she says she's going to get the schools back to teaching math and reading. I had no idea they stopped doing that. /s
 
ranbalam said:
I wish. She's awful. But the other five candidates were all DQd for a signature harvesting scam.
Whitmer has done a good job as governor, all considered, but it won't matter. Dixon is on the anti-trans anti-abortion platform and that will carry her far.
In her commercials she says she's going to get the schools back to teaching math and reading. I had no idea they stopped doing that. /s
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RttWH has Whitmer with an 87% chance. Obviously not 100, but it's one of the more safer races this go around.
 
ranbalam said:
I wish. She's awful. But the other five candidates were all DQd for a signature harvesting scam.
Whitmer has done a good job as governor, all considered, but it won't matter. Dixon is on the anti-trans anti-abortion platform and that will carry her far.
In her commercials she says she's going to get the schools back to teaching math and reading. I had no idea they stopped doing that. /s
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They didn’t.
 
What is everybody's feeling about the midterms? No one would ever accuse me of being an optimist but I am not getting a good feeling regarding the Dem's chances with either chamber. I never thought they'd keep the house, but I thought they might have a shot at the Senate. 538 gives them a 57 chance of holding onto it at the moment, not great. If Oz and Walker get elected, God help us all.
 
Twentytwo said:
What is everybody's feeling about the midterms? No one would ever accuse me of being an optimist but I am not getting a good feeling regarding the Dem's chances with either chamber. I never thought they'd keep the house, but I thought they might have a shot at the Senate. 538 gives them a 57 chance of holding onto it at the moment, not great. If Oz and Walker get elected, God help us all.
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Feeling really doom and gloom rn with this. I can believe the Oz/Fetterman race is now as close as it is. Feeling sick to my stomach thinking about the election
 
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Appeals court pauses Biden student debt relief program while it reviews case | CNN Politics

A federal appeals court put a temporary, administrative hold on President Joe Biden's student loan forgiveness program, barring the administration from canceling loans covered under the policy, while the court considers a challenge to it.
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Republicans were able to get a freeze on all student loan debt forgiveness.

It's only temporary as of right now, until the courts get a chance to review the cases.
 
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