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The electoral college would still vote. Though at that point I don’t think they would be beholden to their states election results.
There are no results for them to be beheld to.

If that’s the case it further makes me want to do away with that system anyhow. Like their whole purpose was sort of to keep someone like Trump out anyhow.

We’ve broken the system completely. We need a new one.
 
I assume the presidential order of succession kicks in, but not sure at which position, assuming all of the Cabinets Secretaries would be at the end of their term. So maybe someone in the military?
Actually it would be President pro tempore of the senate, who is currently Patty Murray. And I’m pretty sure her term isn’t up!
 
Actually it would be President pro tempore of the senate, who is currently Patty Murray. And I’m pretty sure her term isn’t up!
That position only comes after the Speaker of the House. Remember the West Wing episode where Bartlett has to step down and the VP post was vacant. The Republican Speaker of the House was sworn in and then relinquished the position when Bartlett was able to return.


 
That position only comes after the Speaker of the House. Remember the West Wing episode where Bartlett has to step down and the VP post was vacant. The Republican Speaker of the House was sworn in and then relinquished the position when Bartlett was able to return.

That shit would never happen now.
 
That shit would never happen now.
Correct. The Republican Party became fundamentally broken under Obama. Blocking his Supreme Court pick was the final straw. If Trump is dispatched this fall, I wonder how long it will take for the Republican Party to dig out from the huge grave they dug for themselves? MAGA dies with Trump and there is no one that will be able to take the baton.
 
Correct. The Republican Party became fundamentally broken under Obama. Blocking his Supreme Court pick was the final straw. If Trump is dispatched this fall, I wonder how long it will take for the Republican Party to dig out from the huge grave they dug for themselves? MAGA dies with Trump and there is no one that will be able to take the baton.
Oh there are plenty of stooges waiting in the wings for when Trump eats it. If there's one thing the Republicans are brilliant at that the Democrats have never learned, it's how to be an opposition party. They're overflowing with nationally known candidates waiting in the wings for the God emperor to die believing that they could be the Kwisatz Haderach. The Bene Gesserit have made sure of it. Wait, what are we taking about?
 
Correct. The Republican Party became fundamentally broken under Obama. Blocking his Supreme Court pick was the final straw. If Trump is dispatched this fall, I wonder how long it will take for the Republican Party to dig out from the huge grave they dug for themselves? MAGA dies with Trump and there is no one that will be able to take the baton.
Actually, regardless of whether Trump or Biden wins (I still assume rationality in a slight majority, so Biden) real change will only come if Democrats control the Senate and House.

If they do, them we will see the impeachment of Clarence Thomas, possibly Sam The Flag Alito, and the elimination of corruption on the Supreme Court.

If Trump wins, whatever happens, happens. The United States can only blame itself.

If Trump is in the White House, it would be truly precedent setting. His VP could take over the First Lady office space right in the West Wing. Everyone knows that Trump and Melania aren't together anymore. She gets more $$ if she continues the marriage facade, but that's all it is.
 
You might need to take a moment for self reflection when your biggest and most important supporters think it would be better if you died.
 
Actually, regardless of whether Trump or Biden wins (I still assume rationality in a slight majority, so Biden) real change will only come if Democrats control the Senate and House.
Dems did control The House and Senate just a couple years ago. Along with Biden’s election in 2020 The Dems held control of the House and eked out control of the Senate. They could only pass a small portion of their agenda. Not much real change occurred unfortunately.

Heck, in 2008 Obama had The House AND a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and the Dems still couldn’t get a single payer or public option passed, they barely passed Obamacare and then got their ass kicked in the 2010 midterms.. Sadly, there isn’t much appetite for elected officials in the Democratic Party to enact bold changes.
 
That position only comes after the Speaker of the House. Remember the West Wing episode where Bartlett has to step down and the VP post was vacant. The Republican Speaker of the House was sworn in and then relinquished the position when Bartlett was able to return.


You are correct. My assumption in this scenario is that no one votes for ANY official and since the House rotates every two years, all current members would have expired terms, therefore no members to elect a Speaker, and no persons in the chain except the pro tempore. Though in said scenario I assume Dems would effectively lose the Senate and probably the current appointee…
 
If Trump is dispatched this fall, I wonder how long it will take for the Republican Party to dig out from the huge grave they dug for themselves
But I don't see this happen. If Biden is not stepping down Trump will win. And we saw lat time what happened if he does not win. Then he claims the election was stolen and keeps his grip on the party. Once he's dead it will be an interesting battle for Maga where everybody claims to be hid true heir. But I do not see much of the republican party left that it is interested in democracy.
 

 
Watch them try to blame the loss on Bernie now like all the idiot Dems did when Hillary lost.

 
Watch them try to blame the loss on Bernie now like all the idiot Dems did when Hillary lost.

Anybody's fault but their own.
 
But I don't see this happen. If Biden is not stepping down Trump will win. And we saw lat time what happened if he does not win. Then he claims the election was stolen and keeps his grip on the party. Once he's dead it will be an interesting battle for Maga where everybody claims to be hid true heir. But I do not see much of the republican party left that it is interested in democracy.
Joe will step down. It just can't be instantaneous, there is a need to organize a logical plan.

Joe won't make it to a second debate. The Democratic party can't let that happen.

Joe will get new polling data next week, and it will show him dropping at least 5 points after the debate.

He will also get polling data that assesses a range of potential replacements. Bearing in mind that none of those potential replacements are actual candidates yet (so the polling will largely reflect name awareness), I would expect it will show any of Kamala, Gretchen, Gavin would be stronger than Joe.

Joe's immediate problem is that he has no upside potential to grow votes. Not any more. But put Kamala, Gretchen or Gavin out front of the Democratic ticket and the vote will start to shift. Them put any of them beside Trump in a debate and that lowlife scammer gets humiliated.
 

Essentially, for the first time ever for this teacher, when she asked 16 and 17 year olds if the voting age were changed to 16 years old, would they vote in the election, and all the students said no.

This teacher has never had that happen before. Sign of the time, the state of our country and the candidates we have to offer I would say.
 
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