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Indymisanthrope said:
Honest question, where is Thievery Corporation in people’s heads with respect to legacy? In my mind they’re one of the best acts to ever do it, but they remain one that is not often mentioned. Am I putting them on a pedestal they haven’t earned?
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this new kid into trainspotting has it correct:

TrainFan73 said:
They are fantastic and overlooked.
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their albums are so, so wonderful and varied. Saudade and Temple of I & I are just love letters to the respective genres, and their other albums mix their other influences so well, often yoking in guests in. Fantastic live show, do not skip if at all possible to see 'em
 
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yukbon said:
this new kid into trainspotting has it correct:



their albums are so, so wonderful and varied. Saudade and Temple of I & I are just love letters to the respective genres, and their other albums mix their other influences so well, often yoking in guests in. Fantastic live show, do not skip if at all possible to see 'em
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And they're going on tour this year. They'll be in my area in October the night after DJ Shadow.
 
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yukbon said:
this new kid into trainspotting has it correct:



their albums are so, so wonderful and varied. Saudade and Temple of I & I are just love letters to the respective genres, and their other albums mix their other influences so well, often yoking in guests in. Fantastic live show, do not skip if at all possible to see 'em
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Any thoughts on the 2022 reissue of Mirror Conspiracy? Looks like the US version was done at RTI but the Europe pressing is GZ. Being in Canada it could be either copy that is available here.
 
jamieanderson1968 said:
Any thoughts on the 2022 reissue of Mirror Conspiracy? Looks like the US version was done at RTI but the Europe pressing is GZ. Being in Canada it could be either copy that is available here.
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haven't heard the reissue; i did pick up the anniversary reissue of saudade and i had the original so i was able to compare them. i kept the original and PIF'd the reissue, although in honesty I found no real difference between them. maybe the new one sounded punchier, more bassy. maybe. that could just as well have been bias on my part.
 
Dead C said:
Because you thought Thievery Corp was an emo band?

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Yes, but, my point is that I know they’re not, but they’re not big enough for me to immediately be like “oh yeah, Thievery Corporation is one of the most influential and great electronic groups.”

So yes, it’s a YP. But if you add up all the YPs, you get the answer to @Indymisanthrope ’s question of why they’re not talked about as much by the commoners.
 
TrainFan73 said:
They are fantastic and overlooked.
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Melt Face Molly Drop said:
Yes, but, my point is that I know they’re not, but they’re not big enough for me to immediately be like “oh yeah, Thievery Corporation is one of the most influential and great electronic groups.”

So yes, it’s a YP. But if you add up all the YPs, you get the answer to @Indymisanthrope ’s question of why they’re not talked about as much by the commoners.
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As a casual listener to electronic music, I sometimes found it difficult to ID a Theivery Corp tune because they used so many vocalists and had a lot of genre influences in their music. That genre diversity is likely what also garnered them fans and more dedicated listeners than me, but it's perhaps why some of their work isn't as immediately recognizable or as well known to less dedicated audiences/the general public.
 
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Indymisanthrope said:
Honest question, where is Thievery Corporation in people’s heads with respect to legacy? In my mind they’re one of the best acts to ever do it, but they remain one that is not often mentioned. Am I putting them on a pedestal they haven’t earned?
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Big fan, they were kind of pioneers of that down tempo / electronic movement. Also fantastic live act!
 
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Every time this particular Pond group puts out new music, I always have to double check to see if one of my favorite bands reunited
 
Melt Face Molly Drop said:
Yes, but, my point is that I know they’re not, but they’re not big enough for me to immediately be like “oh yeah, Thievery Corporation is one of the most influential and great electronic groups.”

So yes, it’s a YP. But if you add up all the YPs, you get the answer to @Indymisanthrope ’s question of why they’re not talked about as much by the commoners.
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Was that his question? Or was his question if they are overlooked because they deserve to be or not?

I'd rather add up all the commenters in here who know who they are.

I just don't believe that anyone's individual relationship with a band is necessarily reflective of any greater pattern or reasoning, unless you have some data.

Being "big enough" also isn't a measurement of greatness to me.

Offering a personal anecdote about your lack of familiarity only makes the point that you might not be the best person to offer a conclusion on how great they are, not the other way around. It just seemed like a flawed basis for why they should be docked credit. A lot of the greatest and most influential artists aren't the most mainstream or recognized.

If somebody asked if Guided By Voices was the best to ever do it, that would just be another thing prompting me to give them another shot. There are acts like them who are greatly respected by people whose opinions I greatly respect, but I've never gotten into. With GBV specifically, they have a million albums and the "classic" releases that I've tried didn’t immediately connect. Part of that probably has to do with the fact that I was "trying" and things often need to click organically.

One example of that is of Montreal. I wasn't getting it at first and one day it clicked. They didn't suddenly get better just because I felt different about them.

If you ask me, Grateful Dead are "the best to ever do it," but there was a time a looong time ago when I'd rather be listening to Soundgarden.

The best GBV comparison is probably KGATLW, because they have such a vast catalog and range that it can be difficult to step into it. Right now, I feel like Gizz is one of the best doing it, but I didn't know that initially. I was just lumping them in with the Oh Sees scene.

Another thing that affects perspectives of greatness is when you hear an influential act long after you've heard all the acts they've influenced. Ironically, they can come across as less original, when the opposite is true.

There was a time in the 90s where I'm pretty sure that I was mixing up the name of Shudder To Think with Guided By Voices. That's just me being a fucking weirdo; I don't feel that's fair reflection on Bob Pollard.

If someone thinks GBV is the best to ever do it, I feel like I just have to accept that they might be correct and I just don't know it yet.

Edit: I should add that I respect you and your opinions on this forum. I'm not trying to be a dick; I just enjoy analyzing and discussing this sort of stuff.
 
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