STAR WARS! STAR WARS! STAR WARS

Mather said:
I totally agree with all of this. I guess I just mean to say in theory there's stakes, but in actuality no, as long as they keep using all the same characters of course we already know what happens to them. But Rogue One is by far my favorite of all the post OG trilogy movies and simply due to the nature of its story it of course has zero actual stakes, we all know what happens. But it felt like it did, and at this point in terms of terrible Nu Star Wars projects, that's enough for me.
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See, I also enjoyed Rogue One A LOT and wondered if I was being hypocritical above, but I don't think so. Rogue One felt like an extended cut that provided a new set of characters that almost anything could happen to. This probably only works if there's enough time to form an attachment to at least one of them, but it works for me. I don't feel that Kenobi allows for that. Give me ten plus episodes and Kenobi surrounded by a new cast of characters and I might be more intrigued.

I do understand how you mean, but I just don't think I feel it. During the battle I even thought the score didn't make it feel important. It felt off. Side note: I was a little bit hoping it wasn't a physical confrontation, but a mental one.

A minor shift in perspective and the show could easily be called either Leia or Vader. Is it that generic? I dunno *shrug* but I have already seen Star Wars Adventures in Babysitting.
 
Jan said:
I may have to see the end beginningwith the vader knowing battle again, because I was a little distracted but obi vans escape via the very slow Droid from hhe fire and Vader watching loked x little unconvincing and too easy
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i took it as vader enjoying the torture game, as it were. he didn't have to toss obi wan back out of the fire he just pulled him in to, but he did. then he stared long and hard through the reignited fire at what was happening, and i think it was a deliberate choice on his part to remain there- he could have easily interfered, and we're meant to see that he did not. for vader now, the thrill is in the chase and the mental and physical games he can play with a weakend obi wan, not the capture. this episode shows just how cruel vader is when he is on the hunt, and i think he realizes here that his hatred for obi wan fuels him in a way no other pursuit can.

overall i am really, really enjoying this show. this episode was fantastic.
 
AndySlash said:
i took it as vader enjoying the torture game, as it were. he didn't have to toss obi wan back out of the fire he just pulled him in to, but he did. then he stared long and hard through the reignited fire at what was happening, and i think it was a deliberate choice on his part to remain there- he could have easily interfered, and we're meant to see that he did not. for vader now, the thrill is in the chase and the mental and physical games he can play with a weakend obi wan, not the capture. this episode shows just how cruel vader is when he is on the hunt, and i think he realizes here that his hatred for obi wan fuels him in a way no other pursuit can.

overall i am really, really enjoying this show. this episode was fantastic.
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That might be true. I wonder If this is going to be a bad decision for him in the end.
 
AndySlash said:
i took it as vader enjoying the torture game, as it were. he didn't have to toss obi wan back out of the fire he just pulled him in to, but he did. then he stared long and hard through the reignited fire at what was happening, and i think it was a deliberate choice on his part to remain there- he could have easily interfered, and we're meant to see that he did not. for vader now, the thrill is in the chase and the mental and physical games he can play with a weakend obi wan, not the capture. this episode shows just how cruel vader is when he is on the hunt, and i think he realizes here that his hatred for obi wan fuels him in a way no other pursuit can.

overall i am really, really enjoying this show. this episode was fantastic.
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I think you're right, but I wish it was better communicated, because I initially sat there and had the same reaction as @Jan.
 
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Comin at ya with more Legends book refrences

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This book goes into great detail about Vader's motivations and emotions. James Luceno is awesome; one of the best SW writers. As Anakin, his power and mastery of the force comes with his brazen passion, but as Vader, his strength comes from pain. Palpatine intentionally used archaic technology in constructing Vader's life support suit in order to keep him in a constant state of pain. At the end of ROTS Palapatine makes him believe he killed Padme, the sole tether to his past life, in order to push him into this new state of pain and vengeance.

The Vader in Kenobi falls right in line with this. He wants Obi-Wan to feel the same pain that he's felt for 10 years. This in turn gives him strength and power. Killing him would end all that. He wants Obi Wan, but he doesn't want him dead.



Vader's strength comes from his pain.
 
I actually grew very frustrated with the escalation of poor writing choices in order to get to their plot points in Obi Wan.

Also Zach Braff does a REALLY good Seth Rogan impression.
 
Finally got back from my trip and had time to sit with the family to watch the first 3 Obi Wans. I like it. It's not necessarily ground breaking and it's definitely clunky in some parts. But I'm enjoying a lot of it. I think Lucas bent the canon to his desires when he deviated from the story for the prequels. So much of that never linked up with what Obi Wan told Luke on Tatooine or Dagobah. I think this series is similar. I think Star Wars canon has become somewhat flexible ("from a certain point of view"). I love PTSD Ben. It makes a lot of sense. They just have to craft the final 3 to show how he becomes the crazy old wizard who is more wise and philosophical. I love seeing Alderaan up close as it makes its destruction by the Empire more heartbreaking. I like how Lucasfilm explored that with Cara Dune being from there and people treating it like the terrible, unprecedented event it was. The comics also explore that some.
 
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This was great, so i´ve got some comics and mission to disaster before i dare to dive into fallen star to close out phase 1.
´ve got the feeling that the adult novels are the page turners that propell the narrative while the ya novels are the heart and soul of the series that deal a lot with the inner turmoil and struggles of the ( mostly jedi) protagonist with the rules of the order
 
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Dear Disney, stop chopping up movies and making them shows. You're wasting everyone's time. Thanks. Sweet battle tho.
 
It was a Ok finale. Does anyone see where they could do a Season 2 of Obi Wan ? For me it was a bit finite. Does he come out of the cave every few or 20 years ?
 
Well that was really rather good altogether. That’s the first Star Wars thing I’ve enjoyed in a long long while.

They do another series I hope the introduce and properly develop some side characters because the only criticism I’d have would be that it’s a little lacking in jeopardy because we know the big guys make it to Star Wars.
 
Enjoyed Obi-Wan. Binged the last three episodes yesterday.

I was expecting to see Qui-Gon earlier, when Obi-Wan was trapped in the rubble. But glad to see him nonetheless. And the Jedi tomb was pretty cool as well, although I don't know my 'extended' universe so I didn't know who anyone was. Although I thought the first one was Jar Jar for a minute.
 
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