Sutherland Club House

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[AnthonyI]

The only consideration is that the Little Loco is more "built for" MC carts, otherwise it's a coin toss with the DUO based on price, in my opinion. MAYBE the DUO will adjust down a bit over time......wishful thinking on my part

 

[kvetcha]

not today, satan

 

[displayname]

The only consideration is that the Little Loco is more "built for" MC carts, otherwise it's a coin toss with the DUO based on price, in my opinion. MAYBE the DUO will adjust down a bit over time......wishful thinking on my part

I wouldn't hold your breath on that price drop. I just pulled up the the original Stereophile review of the 20/20, which was published in 2011. Looks like the price has technically increased $5 since then... and added a LPS option for an additional charge.

A lot of companies will advertise that they don't release new models until it's noticeably improved from a previous model. But given the near decade long product life cycles of the Sutherland gear, I think Ron Sutherland really follows that practice.

 

[AnthonyI]

I wouldn't hold your breath on that price drop. I just pulled up the the original Stereophile review of the 20/20, which was published in 2011. Looks like the price has technically increased $5 since then... and added a LPS option for an additional charge.

A lot of companies will advertise that they don't release new models until it's noticeably improved from a previous model. But given the near decade long product life cycles of the Sutherland gear, I think Ron Sutherland really follows that practice.

I did qualify that with ".......wishful thinking", lol. That is probably the one thing I would do my best to jump on if the opportunity presented itself, an open box or used DUO. I would toss the DUO in with the UD and PL and move the Insight to the PLX/NAD setup

 

[Corycm]

Ok, I'm also liquidating all my hifi gear at the moment. I'll be putting my Sutherland Insight up on eBay this week for auction. I'm going to start bids at $950. However, if any of the N&G crew are interested I'll sell it to you straight out for $900 + whatever shipping ends up being. Last I looked it was around $50 or so to ship the Insight.

Let me know if you're interested and I can send pics, etc.

Dammit @Tyr

 

[MikeH]

Ok, I'm also liquidating all my hifi gear at the moment. I'll be putting my Sutherland Insight up on eBay this week for auction. I'm going to start bids at $950. However, if any of the N&G crew are interested I'll sell it to you straight out for $900 + whatever shipping ends up being. Last I looked it was around $50 or so to ship the Insight.

Let me know if you're interested and I can send pics, etc.

What other stuff are ya selling?

 

[kvetcha]

Dammit @Tyr

@westcoastbias saved you from this one.

 

[Corycm]

@westcoastbias saved you from this one.

Whew and also dammit.

 

[Tyr]

What other stuff are ya selling?

The lot at the moment. A pair of Sonus Faber Olympica II speakers, a PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell DAC, and a PS Audio Stellar S300 power amp.

Whew and also dammit.

Lol!!!

 

[Joe Mac]

The lot at the moment. A pair of Sonus Faber Olympica II speakers, a PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell DAC, and a PS Audio Stellar S300 power amp.



Lol!!!

I’ll give a shout out for the gain cell, I use it as my pre-amp and I love the thing!

 

[Jango]

I might be able to get my hands on a 20/20 with the LPS for the price of the Insight, which is my current phono preamp. I’m pretty happy with the Insight, but it’s quite a deal. Thoughts? Has anyone done a comparison?

 

[HiFi Guy]

I might be able to get my hands on a 20/20 with the LPS for the price of the Insight, which is my current phono preamp. I’m pretty happy with the Insight, but it’s quite a deal. Thoughts? Has anyone done a comparison?

That’s likely a nice jump. The LPS removes my one reservation on the Duo- the power supply bricks.

I will say this. New cold Duos were only a wee bit better than the Insight. Once I got some hours on the Duos. it was a whole different kettle of fish.

 

[dansomeone]

I might be able to get my hands on a 20/20 with the LPS for the price of the Insight, which is my current phono preamp. I’m pretty happy with the Insight, but it’s quite a deal. Thoughts? Has anyone done a comparison?

You should be able to flip the Insight easily to someone around here, to recoup most of the cost of that 20/20.

 

[Jango]

You should be able to flip the Insight easily to someone around here, to recoup most of the cost of that 20/20.

That’s what I was thinking. I think it’d be the only Insight here with a black faceplate. I’ll def post here if I decide to move on it.

 

[displayname]

I might be able to get my hands on a 20/20 with the LPS for the price of the Insight, which is my current phono preamp. I’m pretty happy with the Insight, but it’s quite a deal. Thoughts? Has anyone done a comparison?

I would jump on that in a second. I'm still thinking about moving up to the LPS for my 20/20 at some point, but getting both together for that price is likely a deal you won't see again for quite some time.

 

[Jango]

I bit on the 20/20 deal and just hooked it up. I’m going to do some A/B testing with the Insight once it warms up a bit. Then I’ll decide on which one I decide to keep. I’ll keep you posted!

 

[kvetcha]

I bit on the 20/20 deal and just hooked it up. I’m going to do some A/B testing with the Insight once it warms up a bit. Then I’ll decide on which one I decide to keep. I’ll keep you posted!

If you decide not to keep it, I would buy the LPS.

 

[Jango]

If you decide not to keep it, I would buy the LPS.

It sounds a little bit better than the Insight so far, more so when it comes to the bass, but it’s only been plugged in for 2 hours or so. How long do you think it needs before it’s properly warmed up @HiFi Guy?

 

[HiFi Guy]

It sounds a little bit better than the Insight so far, more so when it comes to the bass, but it’s only been plugged in for 2 hours or so. How long do you think it needs before it’s properly warmed up @HiFi Guy?

Since it’s preowned, I’d think a few days. If it was new, I’d say a month.