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nolalady said:
So I binged Fleichman is in Trouble and I really enjoyed it. I related a lot to the Libby character and I am pretty sure they peeked into my brain for some of her dialogue. It really does encapsulate how it feels to be in your 40’s trying to figure out how you got here and why you are discontent despite a decade plus of trying to build a security fortress. I found Toby’s portion of the story amusing and really highlighted what the narrator and Rachel point out about him
that he was completely unaware of how his conduct and words impacted people despite trying to be aware of everything. It’s not a bad thing, just a thing that people who are privileged enough to not have to recognize this in themselves. His lack of awareness, as Rachel points out is what endears him to people, but also what annoys those around him. You realize that he is not a bad guy and you really feel for him but you see how he contributed to the marriage dissolving. At first, it is hard to like Rachel, but you get glimpses into why she’s unhappy. I admit that I had a hard time relating to Rachel but a very easy time relating to Libby so I just went with that. It wasn’t until you get into Rachel’s story that you really feel for her. I am not sure if I wanted them to get back together and I think the show ended on that note because the author wanted it to end it on a hopeful note.

I think I found it most relatable when Libby was talking about what she was going through. I didn’t really get triggered or sad because this divorce is different from my own. I did often feel like Toby
when he was left with kids while Rachel had a total disconnect from reality because I am living that now. And also being with a partner that you beg to go get help, but they are really resistant. But I also understood where Rachel was coming from because she was doing the financial heavy lifting. I was conflicted to be on one person’s side but I think that was the intent.
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Indymisanthrope said:
Since the show is also to some degree about unreliable narrators (at least in the sense that the stories we tell are always told from a certain point of view and are never entirely objective) I read the end of the show as even more ambiguous: are we even seeing real life in that final montage? The lines between real Rachel and the story that Libby is telling about Rachel get really blurry. There are some other hints that maybe what we're seeing is Libby's fictionalized version of the story: we see her using the fake glasses with her husband, when that was always a bit between Toby and Rachel. We also see Adam tell Libby that "she always comes back;" when Libby tells Toby that Rachel is going to come back because "she was always going to come back," who is she actually talking about at that point? And if the final scenes are Libby's retelling of events, then is the entire series, narrated by Libby, her own fictionalized retelling of events as a vehicle to explore what's actually important to her....putting "blood on the pages," in her words?

I don't have a really firm opinion on this, but I think I lean toward AT LEAST the last scene's reality being in doubt. What it's really about, I suspect, isn't whether Rachel really comes back, but as you point out, about recapturing a sense of potential, the watchword of the whole show. Did she really come back? Well...she could.
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My take was that it was whether it was reality or not, Rachel walking through the door at the ending was more about her returning to her family, not necessarily returning to Toby, she disappeared from Toby and her Kids life and now she is back. I don’t think her and Toby are reconciling romantically. I think it’s more about her again becoming a presence in their lives.
 
Indymisanthrope said:
That's a good point. On that note, if there was one thing in the show that didn't really ring true for me, it was that Toby was completely unreceptive to, or Libby was completely ineffective in communicating, the severity of Rachel's break from reality. It calls into question everything we know about Toby as someone so committed to the calling of medicine. I can accept an initial reaction of defiantly refusing to help, but I fully expected his calling to impel him to, at the very least, conduct some sort of welfare check. You know, the 'patient interface' that he supposedly loves. I don't really believe that he would just shrug at the suggestion that she's suddenly having some sort of psychotic episode. In fact, I thought maybe his wrestling with his disappointment over the liver transplant patient not being the madonna he imagined her being, was going to result in some kind of epiphany over how Rachel still deserves basic human compassion even if she isn't the woman he loves anymore. But the show never really addresses this incident that is, in my view, Toby's biggest, and most unforgivable, sin. He's uniquely positioned to help her, and even after you see her point of view and start to sympathize with her over what she sees as Toby's abandonment of her, he doubles down on that abandonment with very little consequence other than Libby getting a little upset at him.
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I agree, maybe initially his reaction would be negative as I am sure he had to do some mental gymnastics to be able square the idea of Rachel abandoning her kids, but after a night or two you’d imagine he would have cared enough to check and maybe he did. We would assume she got help if she was returning to them at the end but the third perspective switch to Libby’s doesn’t really dwell too much on the aftermath of Rachel and Toby beyond showing her return.
 
Turbo said:
Just started reading the books... man do they suck you right in. I'm about done Leviathan Wakes - but it's amazing how well they did translating all this into TV. There are some differences, but not that many. Bringing Avarsarala right into Season 1 was an excellent move for TV. Anyway, I'm really enjoying reliving this in a different way.
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Yup, they did a great job translating it to the page and casting the actors. The only one I think was a bit wide of the mark was the way they portrayed Holden in the show. In the books he is a bit more self-effacing and has a bit more humour about him.
 
jamieanderson1968 said:
Yup, they did a great job translating it to the page and casting the actors. The only one I think was a bit wide of the mark was the way they portrayed Holden in the show. In the books he is a bit more self-effacing and has a bit more humour about him.
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He seems a bit more righteous in the book too, but I may be misremembering.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
Just checked out the first episode of Mayfair Witches on AMC+

Not sure when the next episode drops as it's not listed yet. And the date on date on episode 1 is Jan 8, 2023 👀

But this looks like a new series I'll be watching as new episodes drop.
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I'm definitely going to check this out as I'm a big fan of Anne Rice's work!
 
I’m pretty happy with the season finale of Willow,
except that I wished Elora would have given Brayden a big smooch or something before he got blown away

Looking forward to next season.
 
Has anyone watched The Flight Attendant?

We watched the first series early last year and enjoyed it and watched the first ep of season 2 last night. Really fun show but damn, the main character is annoying :ROFLMAO:
 
Idk if this is the place to ask this, but does anyone have the Roku Soundbar?


I have been using a basic Roku stick on a 42” TV for almost 6 years now. It’s worked fine up until recently where the remote doesn’t like to connect and it’s not the batteries. I figure it’s maybe time to just get a new one.

The soundbar caught my eye since I’ve only ever used speakers in my tv. Is it worth it?
 
wokeupnew said:
Idk if this is the place to ask this, but does anyone have the Roku Soundbar?


I have been using a basic Roku stick on a 42” TV for almost 6 years now. It’s worked fine up until recently where the remote doesn’t like to connect and it’s not the batteries. I figure it’s maybe time to just get a new one.

The soundbar caught my eye since I’ve only ever used speakers in my tv. Is it worth it?
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I can't comment on this specific soundbar but can say using a soundbar vs the built in speakers on your tv is a night and day difference. My soundbar recently stopped working so I went back to the tv speakers while waiting for a replacement and was so sad.
 
tvham said:
I can't comment on this specific soundbar but can say using a soundbar vs the built in speakers on your tv is a night and day difference. My soundbar recently stopped working so I went back to the tv speakers while waiting for a replacement and was so sad.
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I’ve been missing out all this time! 😱
 
Ericj32 said:
I mayyyy have gone through all 375 pages (7,497 posts) in the old tv thread and manually catalogued each show mentioned in a spreadsheet along with the username of each person who said they generally liked the show, were "meh" on the show, or disliked the show (a lot of this is open to my interpretation of the comment). I also may have made a few mistakes or missed a few details. Not sure where to put this but there are 559 shows total.

Not sure if I should clog up the thread by posting the full thing here, so, for now, here are the shows with 15 or more people that generally seemed to enjoy them:

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seeing this for the first time and holy shit.

but for the record, i never watched the leftovers, and westworld went to a strong meh-nay by the end (dont know that i even watched the final season tbh)
 
I have been rewatching 'Manhattan' from 2014 and its a real shame it was cancelled. Have to admit that I cant remember much of it, so this rewatch is as if its my first viewing, but so far its gripping.

Its set in the New Mexico desert at a government 'town' and follows teams of scientists that are working on the Manhattan Project (Project Y). Essentially, they are trying to build the first atomic bomb before the Germans do. Plenty of espionage, spies, and trickery, whilst the scientists also try and hide what they actually do from their families.

Hell of a cast as well, John Benjamin Hickey, Ashley Zukerman, Rachel Brosnahan, Harry Lloyd, David Harbour....
 
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