Vinyl Me Please Anthology

Yeah I mean on the face of it I have no real issues with a company not paying international duty. Almost none do. But it's the fact that they change their policies AFTER everyone has paid and right as items are being shipped out. Like seriously with this? Again? Just wait until the next anthology to make this change instead of screwing over your international customers with massive unexpected fees. I don't get who makes these decisions. I guarantee you it ain't Pauly, who has to deal with the blowback from them all.
I’m a US customer but do hate this for international ones. If I’d ordered and had to pay duties, I’d tell them how much I paid and ask for it back somehow. The $40 credit isn’t enough, especially if you’re paying more than that once it arrives.
 
Speaking of, I just had a seller cancel and refund a sale because the cheapest shipping from Canadia to USizstan Florida he could manage was 70 CAD unless he used a thin mailer that he felt wouldn't protect the record.


Fuck, I hate international shipping bullshit
 
Speaking of, I just had a seller cancel and refund a sale because the cheapest shipping from Canadia to USizstan Florida he could manage was 70 CAD unless he used a thin mailer that he felt wouldn't protect the record.


Fuck, I hate international shipping bullshit

I mean, unless he was trying to mail it in a lead box, or ultra express, I'm gonna call bullshit on this one.
 
Unless something has changed with Canada Post in the last two months I should be able to get you a 2LP gatefold wrapped in bubblewrap with couple of cardboard inserts in a standard sized whiplash mailer, or similar, with tracking for 23 to 27 Canadian Loonies, give or take.
 
Speaking of, I just had a seller cancel and refund a sale because the cheapest shipping from Canadia to USizstan Florida he could manage was 70 CAD unless he used a thin mailer that he felt wouldn't protect the record.


Fuck, I hate international shipping bullshit
Ummmmm, what was he sending?
 
He's lying or he's incompetent. I send multiple PIFs to the States regularly and it usually costs me about $23 for 2 to 3 LPs.

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I assume either he can't find the record (ie lost or sold or in worse condition than expected etc) or there really is some sort of shipping issue. Calling them out on it or insisting would probably go nowhere and i don't even really think there's ill-intent. Reddit seller, so it's a toss up on if there's something he doesn't want to say or doesn't know to do or whatever.

It's one of a handful of Zorn records I would consider 'must have' for my personal collection (dreamers O'o, naked city, big gundown, spillane) so I'm just going to keep looking for it.
 
they'll really start to bleed international customers if they do. the shipping is a huge draw for non-US customers, why even fucking bother if that's going to spike.

As I’m about to sign back up for a 3 month Classics sub, I reached out and asked if this will also be the case for RotMs. Would 100% be a deal breaker for me. Will report back when I hear from CS.
 
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It's one of a handful of Zorn records I would consider 'must have' for my personal collection (dreamers O'o, naked city, big gundown, spillane) so I'm just going to keep looking for it.

Big Gundown is my favourite Zorn album. Although, tbh *whispers* I just enjoy it on CD. *gasp*
Zorn would be a prime candidate for a vinyl box set, although I don’t know how you’d pick which Masada album(s) to include.
 
Big Gundown is my favourite Zorn album. Although, tbh *whispers* I just enjoy it on CD. *gasp*
Zorn would be a prime candidate for a vinyl box set, although I don’t know how you’d pick which Masada album(s) to include.
oofff JFC yes

I think a naked city or painkiller box set would probably be the way to go, but knowing zorn he'd insist on some art that would kill the whole thing.
 
Yeah definitely curious.

So I asked:

“Hi! I was about to sign back up for the Dinah>Dizzy>Miles run of Classics, but I read you have changed your international shipping declarations for the VMP Anthology, and people are getting hit with Duty and Customs charges. (And the actual problem...DHL fees). Is that also the case for your standard RotMs?”

And got back:

“Thanks for reaching out!

I recommend checking with the Canadian customs office for the most accurate information, but I believe the recent customs charge changes only apply to EU and UK countries on orders over $150.”

So, they just told me to figure out for myself if I’ll be charged Customs fees? That doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. That Dizzy album is great, but I think I’ll pass on dealing with VMP again.
 
So I asked:

“Hi! I was about to sign back up for the Dinah>Dizzy>Miles run of Classics, but I read you have changed your international shipping declarations for the VMP Anthology, and people are getting hit with Duty and Customs charges. (And the actual problem...DHL fees). Is that also the case for your standard RotMs?”

And got back:

“Thanks for reaching out!

I recommend checking with the Canadian customs office for the most accurate information, but I believe the recent customs charge changes only apply to EU and UK countries on orders over $150.”

So, they just told me to figure out for myself if I’ll be charged Customs fees? That doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. That Dizzy album is great, but I think I’ll pass on dealing with VMP again.
Woof.
I guess next month is going to be the test, as I have 5, possibly 6 albums on the way. If I get hit with duties then that's it for me.
 
So I asked:

“Hi! I was about to sign back up for the Dinah>Dizzy>Miles run of Classics, but I read you have changed your international shipping declarations for the VMP Anthology, and people are getting hit with Duty and Customs charges. (And the actual problem...DHL fees). Is that also the case for your standard RotMs?”

And got back:

“Thanks for reaching out!

I recommend checking with the Canadian customs office for the most accurate information, but I believe the recent customs charge changes only apply to EU and UK countries on orders over $150.”

So, they just told me to figure out for myself if I’ll be charged Customs fees? That doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. That Dizzy album is great, but I think I’ll pass on dealing with VMP again.
Yeahhhh, that ain't exactly clear. I mean, I don't think I've ever been hit with customs fees on records UNLESS it's courier delivered. But I'm fairly certain that VMP was generally declaring the value of their records as the manufacturing cost, not the retail. I believe that last time I saw a custom form from them the album's were declared as $2.50. Which wouldn't trigger any customs fees through DHL. But if they've finally been forced to actually declare the proper value on things, which lets face it, was inevitable... I would assume that anything more than a single record would get dinged crossing the border to Canada.
 
but I believe the recent customs charge changes only apply to EU and UK countries on orders over $150
At last for the EU thats bullshit because they changed ( i think that can change from country to country) to 19% import duties sometime last year. There are no new rules in place. For anthology mvps policies of pre-paying customs seemed to have changed
 
Yeahhhh, that ain't exactly clear. I mean, I don't think I've ever been hit with customs fees on records UNLESS it's courier delivered. But I'm fairly certain that VMP was generally declaring the value of their records as the manufacturing cost, not the retail. I believe that last time I saw a custom form from them the album's were declared as $2.50. Which wouldn't trigger any customs fees through DHL. But if they've finally been forced to actually declare the proper value on things, which lets face it, was inevitable... I would assume that anything more than a single record would get dinged crossing the border to Canada.
Sadly there is a difference in duties and taxes. You can import by mail $150 duty free into Canada, but you still can be hit with collecting GST/HST. This is where the couriers get you. That $33 record may not have any duties on it, but it is still liable for sales tax. Canada Post is not allowed to charge brokerage fees so collecting GST is not worth the effort or cost for them, unless it is COD. But DHL and others can charge a brokerage fee so collecting that $4 in taxes is worth it when they can also charge you $25 brokerage fee (which also gets GST applied to it).
 
Sadly there is a difference in duties and taxes. You can import by mail $150 duty free into Canada, but you still can be hit with collecting GST/HST. This is where the couriers get you. That $33 record may not have any duties on it, but it is still liable for sales tax. Canada Post is not allowed to charge brokerage fees so collecting GST is not worth the effort or cost for them, unless it is COD. But DHL and others can charge a brokerage fee so collecting that $4 in taxes is worth it when they can also charge you $25 brokerage fee (which also gets GST applied to it).
Oh I know, but that's what I'm saying. Last time I saw a customs form VMP were declaring the value of the records as $2.50 each. Which wouldn't trigger customs through DHL until you hit like $30. It's the same reason my Ella DHL deliveries clear customs. They only value the discs at $10. But if VMP finally has to actually declare the full value then DHL will trigger the brokerage fees and GST because it'll be over the limit. I believe the limit for media is $30ish.
 
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