Vinyl Me Please Anthology

I deleted the post it was all snark some of it at me personally and was no longer worth the negativity and has me questioning the friendliness of this forum to anyone who says anything positive about VMP anywhere that isn’t a VMP thread, nvm I included criticism in the post. Not happy and thinking about how I what to proceed with this forum which is a shame. This has been a great community for me but that was quite ugly and kept going. I know I was a responsible party in a recent dust up but if that qualifies me for that type of treatment going forward I don’t want to stay as there have been a few other instances too.
Sorry that has happened to you. I am genuinely interested in what they had to say despite my silly post, but understand if you don't want to go through repeating it. I think I am one of many who would hate to have you leave here. You're one of the usernames I see around the most and it makes it a nice place. And good on you for talking with VMP and hearing what they had to say. There's a lot of negativity surrounding VMP and regardless of whether or not it is warranted toward them, it's not cool that you get caught up in the crossfire.

If ya need anything, let us know. We have your back.
 
I deleted the post it was all snark some of it at me personally and was no longer worth the negativity and has me questioning the friendliness of this forum to anyone who says anything positive about VMP anywhere that isn’t a VMP thread, nvm I included criticism in the post. Not happy and thinking about how I what to proceed with this forum which is a shame. This has been a great community for me but that was quite ugly and kept going. I know I was a responsible party in a recent dust up but if that qualifies me for that type of treatment going forward I don’t want to stay as there have been a few other instances too.

Keep going here and just put those people on ignore. There's a lot of VMP rage that's going on right now. The poll thread got ridiculously derailed with some of that. Maybe just try to keep VMP stuff in VMP threads since anything outside seems to be treated poorly.
 
I deleted the post it was all snark some of it at me personally and was no longer worth the negativity and has me questioning the friendliness of this forum to anyone who says anything positive about VMP anywhere that isn’t a VMP thread, nvm I included criticism in the post. Not happy and thinking about how I what to proceed with this forum which is a shame. This has been a great community for me but that was quite ugly and kept going. I know I was a responsible party in a recent dust up but if that qualifies me for that type of treatment going forward I don’t want to stay as there have been a few other instances too.


Yea as like everyone else said. Don't leave because of one bad interaction with a member. There's room here for a lot of opinions and people.
 
My Dylan boxset came loose in an oversized carboard box with a few air bags. Miraculosly came with no obvious damage.
My Beatles Mono box set came in a giant box with a bit of brown paper tossed in, and the corners of the box set were crushed. They initially refused to replace it because the records inside the box were fine, it took me way more legwork then I wanted to finally get a replacement.
 
Remember when Storf was worried that being called @Lee Newman was like a massive insult, and we were all like "no it was just a harmless conspiracy theory" and then they cancelled the forums? Good times.
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So I got my package 2 days ago, finally got around to it tonight and my Shorter thankfully seems correct.

Listened to the Lou Donaldson first - love this record. Sound is fantastic and this is just a fun jazz record. Unfortunately it has a little bit of a dish warp, but I’m not going there with customer service - it plays without issue and a vinyl flat is on my wish list.
 
So I got my package 2 days ago, finally got around to it tonight and my Shorter thankfully seems correct.

Listened to the Lou Donaldson first - love this record. Sound is fantastic and this is just a fun jazz record. Unfortunately it has a little bit of a dish warp, but I’m not going there with customer service - it plays without issue and a vinyl flat is on my wish list.
Don't let their rude CS agent deter you! You paid top dollar for a flat record; you should get one.
 
I just want to say thank you for the support, in my opinion, it had to do with more than one person. I truly feel there has been a slow build to what is going to be acceptable to post about VMP outside of VMP threads. My post was basically that I had a good conversation with Matt and Lloyd because they mostly listened instead of trying to explain things away. But I included that I still have issues and was not too happy with them using the "we're working on it" line. I also mentioned I don't plan to withhold info from conversation unless it is tentative plans or spitting balling things because we all know what happens when we get some info about VMP and it doesn't happen. The status was, in my opinion, fair because they are people and should be talked about as such and I tried to do that. I got comments that I don't think were appropriate and were allowed to go on, some were definitely worse than others but the continued tone was disturbing to me and if I were to respond to any of it would have made it worse (based on a couple of comments I did make and a recent dust-up that I bear a good bit of responsibility for).

I will be meeting with Lloyd (and Matt if he can make it) in person to go over more things since we live fairly close and Lloyd has family near where I live. This doesn't excuse past situations but if they are willing to listen to customers and actually make changes that would be great and give me more hope. If it is all just a show then that would most likely be the tipping point for me.

As to the VMP slow build, I know there is a good portion of people that are extremely upset with VMP and that is totally fine. But if I can't post a status post with mixed commentary about VMP (though I would say it had a lot more skepticism than positive).
 
I am honestly surprised
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I guess they have decided to take all of this serious now, wonder if there will be a comment about the incorrect back sleeve on Donaldson
had they done this type of thing with the Kevin Morby defective run I'd probably still be a member today. kudos for them doing the right thing here but I hate how they couldn't care less about fixing the issue, that actually affected the sound no less, for another record.
 
had they done this type of thing with the Kevin Morby defective run I'd probably still be a member today. kudos for them doing the right thing here but I hate how they couldn't care less about fixing the issue, that actually affected the sound no less, for another record.
completely fair position to take and part of the unevenness they have
 
I just want to say thank you for the support, in my opinion, it had to do with more than one person. I truly feel there has been a slow build to what is going to be acceptable to post about VMP outside of VMP threads. My post was basically that I had a good conversation with Matt and Lloyd because they mostly listened instead of trying to explain things away. But I included that I still have issues and was not too happy with them using the "we're working on it" line. I also mentioned I don't plan to withhold info from conversation unless it is tentative plans or spitting balling things because we all know what happens when we get some info about VMP and it doesn't happen. The status was, in my opinion, fair because they are people and should be talked about as such and I tried to do that. I got comments that I don't think were appropriate and were allowed to go on, some were definitely worse than others but the continued tone was disturbing to me and if I were to respond to any of it would have made it worse (based on a couple of comments I did make and a recent dust-up that I bear a good bit of responsibility for).

I will be meeting with Lloyd (and Matt if he can make it) in person to go over more things since we live fairly close and Lloyd has family near where I live. This doesn't excuse past situations but if they are willing to listen to customers and actually make changes that would be great and give me more hope. If it is all just a show then that would most likely be the tipping point for me.

As to the VMP slow build, I know there is a good portion of people that are extremely upset with VMP and that is totally fine. But if I can't post a status post with mixed commentary about VMP (though I would say it had a lot more skepticism than positive).

If anything, I think it’s kind of cool for them to reach out to you and actually offer to meet up. And it’s good of you to do so too. Hopefully they actually take some of the issues everyone has been having to heart and try to fix things instead of using the “we’re working on it/we’re a young company” line that many of us have gotten in the past.

I personally don’t want VMP to fail. They have given me so many cool new things to listen to and it was a great experience for awhile. But a lot of their actions in the past 6 months to a year have alienated many of their most ardent supporters and it’s a shame. Some of the Anthology miscues could have easily been avoided but it’s a good step that they are fixing Dexter Calling and Shorter. I think taking time to meet up with you is also potentially a good step too. Hope the meeting goes well.
 
I don't know for certain, but I suspect he is. He had been posting videos on YouTube doing 2-minute (?) record features and every single one was a VMP record that he recommended you order, then he put out the "this is a game-changer BN Anthology" video, so I asked him if he was getting his records from VMP for free, and that if so he should be saying so in his video. His reaction was not to reply, but to block me.

I think that's your answer.
oh shit, HRD is on this forum?!? NICE! welcome back buddy!
 
I just want to say thank you for the support, in my opinion, it had to do with more than one person. I truly feel there has been a slow build to what is going to be acceptable to post about VMP outside of VMP threads. My post was basically that I had a good conversation with Matt and Lloyd because they mostly listened instead of trying to explain things away. But I included that I still have issues and was not too happy with them using the "we're working on it" line. I also mentioned I don't plan to withhold info from conversation unless it is tentative plans or spitting balling things because we all know what happens when we get some info about VMP and it doesn't happen. The status was, in my opinion, fair because they are people and should be talked about as such and I tried to do that. I got comments that I don't think were appropriate and were allowed to go on, some were definitely worse than others but the continued tone was disturbing to me and if I were to respond to any of it would have made it worse (based on a couple of comments I did make and a recent dust-up that I bear a good bit of responsibility for).

I will be meeting with Lloyd (and Matt if he can make it) in person to go over more things since we live fairly close and Lloyd has family near where I live. This doesn't excuse past situations but if they are willing to listen to customers and actually make changes that would be great and give me more hope. If it is all just a show then that would most likely be the tipping point for me.

As to the VMP slow build, I know there is a good portion of people that are extremely upset with VMP and that is totally fine. But if I can't post a status post with mixed commentary about VMP (though I would say it had a lot more skepticism than positive).
The truth is there was a fair amount of good about VMP - some amazing Classics picks, intriguing exclusives, generally human CS, the forum (where many of us rediscovered a love of vinyl, interacted with the VMP staff and built friendships among an incredibly generous online community).

But then shipping issues became more than an occasional thing. And then quality issues, quantity issues, distribution issues, etc. And all of it collapsed - including the forum - under the weight of high expectations, a discerning consumer community and really, really horrible public relations and customer service debacle.

For most of us, our anger is not focused directly on the staff (except Matt 😬) - Storf, Pauly and others appear to be caught between a passionate customer base and a corporate rock(head). They've been given canned responses which haven't helped. And they have absolutely botched the anthology.

I truly believe most of us wanted VMP to succeed. To do what they do and do it well. But the indifference - and even worse, blaming of the customers for the company's issues, was finally a step too far for many. Including me.

I guess that is why I admire @Enoch's effort to mend the relationship - to see if Matt and the rest of the organization are just going through a growth phase that they were in able to manage. Or if they really don't give a damn what we do with our extra money ... or our "extra time." ;)

As a group of vinyl hungry consumers we have nothing to lose here except one outlet for discovering new music. But VMP has EVERYTHING to lose. They see the numbers. They know exactly how much each of us has spent on vinyl through the store and our VMP memberships. And it can't look good.

So while I missed the dust-up here on N&G this afternoon, I'm grateful for @Enoch's willingness to sit down and talk with Matt and others. I'm grateful for his status update (both anti- and pro VMP). And he can represent my point of view anytime.

Now, back to 🥃 and 🎶

#fin
 
I guess that is why I admire @Enoch's effort to mend the relationship - to see if Matt and the rest of the organization are just going through a growth phase that they were in able to manage.
This is why I haven't given up on them yet, I get why others have and respect it plus we all have different tipping points on all kind of things. Here people reached it, in other things I may reach it and when others haven't. I know why I haven't and I have continued to explore if that is a good reason to stick through. I will say this reaching out to me gives me hope but actions are needed too.
 
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