Nee Lewman
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That’s why I left and their tone deaf response just makes me feel better about it.
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BjorgenFjorgen
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I've gotten the same email when my cancellation was a few days away before, too. This isn't new.
Nee Lewman
बैस्टर्ड
The quiet masses that don’t complain/quit? I’m sure it will work on some.
Space Wanderer
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Oh, I see now. I thought this was a new response specifically to the spike in cancellations (I assume) they got in the last couple of weeks. I wonder how many free records you could score by cancelling ahead of every renewal before they noticed.
Jeff Lerner
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7yler
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Moses Sumney is the best record I've received from them, highly recommend swapping for that.
dhodo
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The last day or so of posts in this thread makes it seem like not all of the moderators are on the same page in terms of the explicit statement in the about N&G thread that this forum isn't anti-anything else.
I think the moderators need to quickly draw up rules applying to every topic and strictly enforce them if threads are going to be abruptly shut down and merged into other threads that have the same overarching topic but different specific focuses. So far it seems like the only reason given was that there are too many VMP threads, which hasn't been defined as a forum rule, to my knowledge. Are the Hip Hop and best 50 hip hop albums of all time all that different? I just think it should be made a clear rule enforced across the board or not enforced if it isn't a rule. At the moment it comes across as rather one sided and doesn't seem to jive with the mission statement IMO.
For the record, I think the shutting down of the forums was crap and I believe that the many people that are more and less upset than me about it have completely valid opinions. However, some of the mods have made some responses in this thread that at least imply that they are critical of people who are still enthusiastic about VMP. I dunno if that is good from an official representative of the community when the mission statement says what it says.
I think the moderators need to quickly draw up rules applying to every topic and strictly enforce them if threads are going to be abruptly shut down and merged into other threads that have the same overarching topic but different specific focuses. So far it seems like the only reason given was that there are too many VMP threads, which hasn't been defined as a forum rule, to my knowledge. Are the Hip Hop and best 50 hip hop albums of all time all that different? I just think it should be made a clear rule enforced across the board or not enforced if it isn't a rule. At the moment it comes across as rather one sided and doesn't seem to jive with the mission statement IMO.
For the record, I think the shutting down of the forums was crap and I believe that the many people that are more and less upset than me about it have completely valid opinions. However, some of the mods have made some responses in this thread that at least imply that they are critical of people who are still enthusiastic about VMP. I dunno if that is good from an official representative of the community when the mission statement says what it says.
BjorgenFjorgen
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I think it'll all get worked out and it's really not a big deal either way. We should all just...have a glass of water and keep spinnin'.
I dunno if you are referring to me, but I'm still a VMP subscriber!
Admin are all broadly on the same page as each other on this issue. We are currently hashing together a thing which will allow the community to vote on how to handle VMP threads moving forwards. Don't know when it will get finished but expect something to happen in the next day or so.
It's been 2 weeks and we're all still finding our way
dhodo
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I understand. I just really like this place and the mission statement and it seems weird to me to limit thread count related to a specific vinyl club unless the threads are duplicates without some forum wide rules to refer to.I dunno if you are referring to me, but I'm still a VMP subscriber!
Admin are all broadly on the same page as each other on this issue. We are currently hashing together a thing which will allow the community to vote on how to handle VMP threads moving forwards. Don't know when it will get finished but expect something to happen in the next day or so.
It's been 2 weeks and we're all still finding our way
Jan
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I dunno if you are referring to me, but I'm still a VMP subscriber!
Admin are all broadly on the same page as each other on this issue. We are currently hashing together a thing which will allow the community to vote on how to handle VMP threads moving forwards. Don't know when it will get finished but expect something to happen in the next day or so.
It's been 2 weeks and we're all still finding our way
Plus since this forum does not represent a company and is on purpose without one leader i don't see why admins shoul not have different views on topics
Sure, I understand, I really do. In some ways we are in a tricky spot because there are a lot of opposing views on this subject within the community and a lot of strongly held opinions. We're trying our best to reach a compromise.
Skalap
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Thanks for all the time you and the other admins spend to make this place an even better place. Do what you think is the best.
serotonein
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I dunno if you are referring to me, but I'm still a VMP subscriber!
Admin are all broadly on the same page as each other on this issue. We are currently hashing together a thing which will allow the community to vote on how to handle VMP threads moving forwards. Don't know when it will get finished but expect something to happen in the next day or so.
It's been 2 weeks and we're all still finding our way
I strenuously disagree on even whether there should be a "vote", however you structure it. Should we have a community vote on any thread with which we disagree? It's fine for people to have strong feelings, even negative ones (I'm not a fucking ray of sunshine, that's for sure), but they can just ignore the thread(s) causing those negative feelings. Having a vote at all shows me the moderators are willing to tell community members that they aren't welcome here if they want to have a vinyl discussion around a topic/club that others don't (potentially, depending on how many people actually choose to voice an opinion).
As others have said, including me, there's a good chance that there's likely to be a natural shift over the next year. If there isn't a shift in discussion, well, that's something we'll all learn, too. I appreciate the work put in by everyone, especially the moderators, but I had to voice my perspective on this particular decision.
It just seems weird to limit what people, still subscribed to VMP, are allowed to post about because others are mad at the company. If Secretly Society ever does me wrong, can I have that thread stopped?
I feel like having any rule about it will just make it a bigger issue than it is (which I think is a pretty small issue). Just let people make threads for the conversation they're having. If it's not a popular one then it will find its way off the front page. If it stays near the top, then obviously enough people are talking about it to warrant the thread. Nature will work itself out here, no need to make or add any rules for this.
Should we say that Tom Waits isn't allowed his own thread because much fewer people are posting in it than The National? Are there going to be polls before every new thread? This is all making much more of a thing than the thing is.
There's currently over 750 people on this forum. Maybe only 12 of them want to talk about a subject without having to parse between other posts. Why would I have any right to tell them not to do that just because I'm one of the 738 that won't post in there?
Bottom Line: My two cents say, No Extra Rules. Obviously, the standard "Be nice to eachother". Outside of that, let the threads build as they organically do.
Enoch
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when did you cancel, receive the email
Enoch
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no one is advocating removing every singular VMP thread though
Sure, but making rules about any posts, will eventually lead to broadening those rules, even if by accident. Why even start it when it's not needed? Again, if a thread isn't needed it will fall to the back pages. If it stays up front, then it's shown it was needed. There's no rule needed for that.