Vinyl Me Please Essentials

gouis said:
People want to create guess threads, have a swaps thread, etc. Basically recreate the other forum in structure.
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Enoch said:
which I understand but yeah we need to realize this isn't the old place, so I think there should be some leeway but also some limits too and then let's see where it is in a year
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Okay, but right there that's limiting what people are allowed to post about. That's making the same mistakes that VMP was, but overcorrected in the other direction. If someone wanted to have a guess thread, they actually wouldn't be allowed to?

This is a lot of over-thinking, and this is how VMP gets too much influence over the forum.

In my original post I suggested making a sticky this sub forum for VMP that branches into a subforum for those threads. It gives everyone who wants to talk about VMP a place to do so, and everyone who doesn't just one thing to ignore.

But I'm repeating myself, and I fear if I keep doing that I'm going to come of as combative, which I really don't want to, even accidentally. I'm not even sure if I'm renewing my membership when it comes up, but I just do not like telling people How they are supposed to talk about any subject.
 
Widget said:
Okay, but right there that's limiting what people are allowed to post about. That's making the same mistakes that VMP was, but overcorrected in the other direction. If someone wanted to have a guess thread, they actually wouldn't be allowed to?

This is a lot of over-thinking, and this is how VMP gets too much influence over the forum.

In my original post I suggested making a sticky this sub forum for VMP that branches into a subforum for those threads. It gives everyone who wants to talk about VMP a place to do so, and everyone who doesn't just one thing to ignore.

But I'm repeating myself, and I fear if I keep doing that I'm going to come of as combative, which I really don't want to, even accidentally. I'm not even sure if I'm renewing my membership when it comes up, but I just do not like telling people How they are supposed to talk about any subject.
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It sounds like the sub-forum thing is being considered, but I agree right now we are just going in circles and it would be tragic if it grew into something more than a discussion, we should probably pause this convo for now.
 
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Tillman said:
not yet, I think last I checked the tracking it was scheduled to arrive tomorrow. if I get another defective copy and your new one is good I would be interested in your warped Disc 1 if something like that would even be possible, as long as it isn't too warped with the same defect as well. šŸ™ƒ
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well I just won the unlucky lottery, because the Discogs order I just received also has the defect.
 
Enoch said:
:( , my replacement is sitting in my apartment's locker system, I have been too lazy to go get it, I have the day completely off so why even walk over there
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I already reached out to the seller on hopes of a refund. it was mentioned on the listing that this seller accepts returns, which is the main reason I chose the seller in the first place, but I feel like a complete idiot for even trying to get a good copy of the VMP pressing... I just didn't believe that it could be as widespread as it actually is.

I also decided to shoot VMP another email simply to let them know that there's one more defective copy out there, not that I think they care or will do anything about it.
 
Tillman said:
I already reached out to the seller on hopes of a refund. it was mentioned on the listing that this seller accepts returns, which is the main reason I chose the seller in the first place, but I feel like a complete idiot for even trying to get a good copy of the VMP pressing... I just didn't believe that it could be as widespread as it actually is.

I also decided to shoot VMP another email simply to let them know that there's one more defective copy out there, not that I think they care or will do anything about it.
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well it looks like I'm getting a refund from the seller, minus the $5 shipping. dude was just like keep the record, I don't want to deal with the hassle... so now I got two of these copies. šŸ“€šŸ“€šŸ“€šŸ“€ šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø
 
GritNGlitter said:
From my perspective, VMP themselves have indicated that Reddit, Facebook, and Twitter are their preferred methods of information sharing, and I think recreating so much of the forum they jettisoned prevents them from seeing the true impact--we are picking up their slack by default, which is not really something I'm interested in doing. But again, this isn't just my forum, and you can see why you might not want me making all the rules and strictly enforcing them. ;)
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While I totally agree that I want them to see impact, I think moderating this forum with an agenda that keeps that in mind is against the mission statement for anyone who wants to participate in this forum that does not feel the same way.

I think you are saying that even though you feel this way you aren't forcing it on the forum. I guess I am just surprised that with the only official "rules" posted being the mission statement, there are moderators that are saying things like this that would make me feel unwelcome if I wanted to come in here singing VMP praises. I guess it is good that I am not in that group.
 
dhodo said:
While I totally agree that I want them to see impact, I think moderating this forum with an agenda that keeps that in mind is against the mission statement for anyone who wants to participate in this forum that does not feel the same way.

I think you are saying that even though you feel this way you aren't forcing it on the forum. I guess I am just surprised that with the only official "rules" posted being the mission statement, there are moderators that are saying things like this that would make me feel unwelcome if I wanted to come in here singing VMP praises. I guess it is good that I am not in that group.
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Okay, Iā€™ll take a leap...

Hi, my name is Dave, and I still enjoy VMP. {ducks}

I thought the way they handled the shut down of the other place was cruel and misguided, but I still like getting my ROTMs and donā€™t feel like cancelling my membership over it. I donā€™t want to recreate the ā€œold forumā€ here ā€” the old place got on my nerves sometimes and I looked forward to not having to wade through flame wars with the staff or CS back and forth ā€” but was excited to have a chance to talk about record collecting and other nonsense with other cool people and, since VMP is still my biggest connection to that hobby and this was billed as a place open to all comers, I thought those conversations would be allowed here. I also was well aware that there are hurt feeling and some had cancelled their memberships, and expected that working through this would be part of the launch of this forum. But I sure didnā€™t expect to be told that the community would like those of us who still enjoyed VMP should limit our discussions because it might reflect positively on VMP, or that the forum was considering structuring the site it a way that would intentionally cut down on the volume of VMP discussions. It doesnā€™t seem in line with the published mission of the forum, and it sure doesnā€™t make me feel very welcome.

I truly do appreciate all the hard work our mods have done in the last couple weeks, and humbly suggest that they take sometime to really think about how they want to handle this issue before commenting or making changes. I feel like I know you from your posts, even though I donā€™t often post myself, and donā€™t think that (understandable) spite and anger is why you work so hard to build this place.
 
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