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BradwiseBeats said:
My post was directed at the people complaining about the price for the Rappcats Exclusive version of Bandana that includes Madlib's "Director's Cut" of the album.
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60 Bucks USD before shipping for a 2 LP album that simply includes one extra disc and a printed sleeve over the standard which costs 22 USD is a ripoff any way you slice it. I think it's completely justified to point out when consumers are getting gouged, that's what this is.
 
Mather said:
60 Bucks USD before shipping for a 2 LP album that simply includes one extra disc and a printed sleeve over the standard which costs 22 USD is a ripoff any way you slice it. I think it's completely justified to point out when consumers are getting gouged, that's what this is.
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Especially when, for all intensive purposes, it seems to be a large number pressed and no sorta limited edition deal about it.
 
Clint Howard said:
Especially when, for all intensive purposes, it seems to be a large number pressed and no sorta limited edition deal about it.
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The only information given was that it will never be repressed in this form, hence "limited".

Mather said:
60 Bucks USD before shipping for a 2 LP album that simply includes one extra disc and a printed sleeve over the standard which costs 22 USD is a ripoff any way you slice it. I think it's completely justified to point out when consumers are getting gouged, that's what this is.
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By saying "Simply includes one extra disc", it is clear that this special edition isn't for you. For me personally, Madlib is one of my favorite producers of all time and I had ZERO hangups about paying the asking price for a Madlib director's cut version of the album. Not every exclusive needs to be for you! Doesn't mean it is overpriced.

"Consumers are being gouged" on a special edition version of a vinyl record is hilarious to me. Like you have no other option but to buy this version? You don't even know what went into the director's cut version, saying it is overpriced is at the very least a premature statement.
 
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BradwiseBeats said:
The only information given was that it will never be repressed in this form, hence "limited".



By saying "Simply includes one extra disc", it is clear that this special edition isn't for you. For me personally, Madlib is one of my favorite producers of all time and I had ZERO hangups about paying the asking price for a Madlib director's cut version of the album. Not every exclusive needs to be for you! Doesn't mean it is overpriced.
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Madlib is fantastic, but the bottom line is adding 38 dollars to the cost for a second disc is gouging. This sort of stuff is why the bubble will burst on vinyl because companies have just decided to charge as much as humanly possible for extras just to see how high they can go. A 2 LP wide release album should not cost $60 USD, and if it does then you'd better give me pressing details, who mastered it, where is it pressed, how many copies are being pressed. To me you have to earn that price tag, simply slapping a "Limited Edition" tag on the front and adding a second albeit very cool disc to the release doesn't justify such a massive price in my mind...
 
Mather said:
Madlib is fantastic, but the bottom line is adding 38 dollars to the cost for a second disc is gouging. This sort of stuff is why the bubble will burst on vinyl because companies have just decided to charge as much as humanly possible for extras just to see how high they can go. A 2 LP wide release album should not cost $60 USD, and if it does then you'd better give me pressing details, who mastered it, where is it pressed, how many copies are being pressed. To me you have to earn that price tag, simply slapping a "Limited Edition" tag on the front and adding a second albeit very cool disc to the release doesn't justify such a massive price in my mind...
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Again, you have ZERO idea what went into the production of the second disc so saying it is gouging is at the very least making some wild assumptions.

"Adding a second albeit very cool disc isn't worth it in my mind". Great, then the exclusive isn't for you. Its clearly for the hardcore Madlib fans and the ones I know all bought this version with zero hesitation.
 
BradwiseBeats said:
Again, you have ZERO idea what went into the production of the second disc so saying it is gouging is at the very least making some wild assumptions.

"Adding a second albeit very cool disc isn't worth it in my mind". Great, then the exclusive isn't for you. Its clearly for the hardcore Madlib fans and the ones I know all bought this version with zero hesitation.
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Yup. Don't buy em'. They will stop pressing them or charge less.
 
Sorry if RSR...

Just got my copy of UGK exclusive in, and the front and rear cover are horrendously low res. Worst than Goodie Mob on first glance.. But haven't compared yet. Camp Lo jacket is amazing though.

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The Gatefold feels great, and the records are a nice cool lookin' 180g.. I'll give it a spin soon to confirm sound. Also no lyric book which I thought was suppose to be a thing. Oh well, pretty stoked to have it though!
 
BradwiseBeats said:
Again, you have ZERO idea what went into the production of the second disc so saying it is gouging is at the very least making some wild assumptions.
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Yes exactly, I am making assumptions because Rappcats have provided zero information to justify the cost of this so it's all anyone is left to do. To claim that "real fans" will shell out more money for something like this as a justification for the exceedingly high price is odd to me. Yes, many people will buy this and I'm sure it will sell out but SHOULD they have to pay this much for it? I don't think so. I love Madlib but obviously I'm not going to pay this... but the idea that "this isn't for me" simply because I want to know why the price is nearly 3 times the cost of the standard with only a second added disc is a strange angle to me...
 
DeadwaxDude said:
Sorry if RSR...

Just got my copy of UGK exclusive in, and the front and rear cover are horrendously low res.

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This kind of stuff really gets me as a designer and record collector. This was designed for a 5" CD jewel case in 1996, and likely composed in a raster program like Photoshop, so tied to that resolution. Without access to the original file (which wouldn't help much either) you're forced to do a 2.5x upscale or just rebuild the composition with the underlying image as a base. I remembered the Get on Down issue of this looking fine when I saw it in a shop, so I checked it out on Discogs compared to the OG CD copy. This is the CD, and this is the Get On Down pressing. Get On Down has taken the path that a lot of audiophile labels due with reissuing old albums, to completely rebuild the artwork. Despite looking close to a casual viewer, their typeface actually isn't a match to the CD's, but honestly I think it looks pretty good, and is preferable to such a massive upscale of artwork composed for a CD. It is odd to me that VMP chooses to recompose ROTM artwork frequently but didn't rebuild this cover. I guess this is less revisionist, if less pleasing to the eye.

Anyhow curious how it sounds, especially in comparison to the CD or Get on Down pressing. Mine should be coming this month.
 
zombie.modernist said:
This kind of stuff really gets me as a designer and record collector. This was designed for a 5" CD jewel case in 1996, and likely composed in a raster program like Photoshop, so tied to that resolution. Without access to the original file (which wouldn't help much either) you're forced to do a 2.5x upscale or just rebuild the composition with the underlying image as a base. I remembered the Get on Down issue of this looking fine when I saw it in a shop, so I checked it out on Discogs compared to the OG CD copy. This is the CD, and this is the Get On Down pressing. Get On Down has taken the path that a lot of audiophile labels due with reissuing old albums, to completely rebuild the artwork. Despite looking close to a casual viewer, their typeface actually isn't a match to the CD's, but honestly I think it looks pretty good, and is preferable to such a massive upscale of artwork composed for a CD. It is odd to me that VMP chooses to recompose ROTM artwork frequently but didn't rebuild this cover. I guess this is less revisionist, if less pleasing to the eye.

Anyhow curious how it sounds, especially in comparison to the CD or Get on Down pressing. Mine should be coming this month.
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I can almost guarantee it'll sound better than the Get On Down press. But I feel the same way about the art. It's like they just go with the Art supplied by the label and don't ask questions, or even try to do better than standard. It looks really bad.

My local has a Get On Down press and I'm curious to go look at it for a second time to see if the picture is as blurry as VMP. Basing off your Discogs link, it is much sharper then the VMP Press... Oh well. Really not surprised at this point sadly. The front cover art is very obviously a CD blown up as well..
 
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