Vinyl Me Please Rap & Hip Hop

I’m at a point with Kanye where I’m just so put off by his character that I can’t even give his music a chance anymore. To feed his ego through musical validation is just going to exacerbate his madness, people have been so reckless categorizing his erratic behavior and extremely vitriolic statements as “ahead of their time” or “misunderstood genius” that this man now seems to believe that he can actually say whatever he wants and it’s valid. He knows a portion of his fan base are going to defend him when he talks shit about Harriet Tubman or says “slavery was a choice” so he continues to probe the limits of his influence. Our country needs to stop giving people like Kanye the time of the day, or like Trump, he may actually be president one day and everyone’s going to stand around with their hands on their hips like “How did this happen??!”. We should start preparing for a Kardashian to be our first female president at this rate.
 
The thing with Kanye is, idk who to give credit to for the Shit I like anymore. Each of his songs have 15 producers and 12 writers. I don’t listen to anything of him anymore anyways but that was a issue of mine sometimes
 
Ghost said:
I’m at a point with Kanye where I’m just so put off by his character that I can’t even give his music a chance anymore. To feed his ego through musical validation is just going to exacerbate his madness, people have been so reckless categorizing his erratic behavior and extremely vitriolic statements as “ahead of their time” or “misunderstood genius” that this man now seems to believe that he can actually say whatever he wants and it’s valid. He knows a portion of his fan base are going to defend him when he talks shit about Harriet Tubman or says “slavery was a choice” so he continues to probe the limits of his influence. Our country needs to stop giving people like Kanye the time of the day, or like Trump, he may actually be president one day and everyone’s going to stand around with their hands on their hips like “How did this happen??!”. We should start preparing for a Kardashian to be our first female president at this rate.
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same way I feel these days. I can’t see myself ever caring about anything from him anymore and this is coming from someone who used to be the biggest Stan for him. It’s too sad and depressing and I’ll never feel good supporting him anymore. But that’s okay, he gave me some dope music for a long time and I had my time with it. Time for other music now.
 
Ghost said:
I’m at a point with Kanye where I’m just so put off by his character that I can’t even give his music a chance anymore. To feed his ego through musical validation is just going to exacerbate his madness, people have been so reckless categorizing his erratic behavior and extremely vitriolic statements as “ahead of their time” or “misunderstood genius” that this man now seems to believe that he can actually say whatever he wants and it’s valid. He knows a portion of his fan base are going to defend him when he talks shit about Harriet Tubman or says “slavery was a choice” so he continues to probe the limits of his influence. Our country needs to stop giving people like Kanye the time of the day, or like Trump, he may actually be president one day and everyone’s going to stand around with their hands on their hips like “How did this happen??!”. We should start preparing for a Kardashian to be our first female president at this rate.
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I totally get that and respect that. I love his music for the most part, but his persona lately has definitely soured my enjoyment of his music. I can still listen to him, but it’s not a pure experience anymore and it definitely leaves me feeling conflicted.
 
Seeing someone suggest VMP should press Hell Hath No Fury by Clipse and them respond with "we pressed Lord Willin" hurts me that much more because HHNF deserves a quality press. Not saying Lord Willin didn't, but it was pretty easy to come by before the VMP reissue and the only press of HHNF is a shitty 1LP Get On Down version ☹

I'd get rid of my HHNF reissue in a heartbeat if VMP came out with their own remastered edition on 2LP. That thing never gets played
 
mitchplease said:
Seeing someone suggest VMP should press Hell Hath No Fury by Clipse and them respond with "we pressed Lord Willin" hurts me that much more because HHNF deserves a quality press. Not saying Lord Willin didn't, but it was pretty easy to come by before the VMP reissue and the only press of HHNF is a shitty 1LP Get On Down version ☹

I'd get rid of my HHNF reissue in a heartbeat if VMP came out with their own remastered edition on 2LP. That thing never gets played
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I don’t think the GOD copy I have is terrible. It could certainly be improved but I would not call it shitty either.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
It’s a brilliant mess. There is A LOT going on and this might sound like an odd comp but it reminds me of Brian Wilson w/ SMiLE; a lot of half finished ideas but the stuff that made it out IMO was special. I would say the opening 6 or 7 tracks or the album are fantastic. The end of the album (outside of “Wolves” and “No More Parties In LA”) feel more like outtakes than actual songs but again even those unfinished parts have astounding moments and also kind of expose his creative process especially when comparing the different versions of the album that ended up being released.
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I pretty much love the entire thing. Except the song with The Weeknd. That one should have been cut, in my opinion. Anyone catch TLOP tour? It was amazing!
 
The conversation seems to have quite quickly moved on from Lord Finesse which is a shame because he pretty much personifies hip-hop and has two absolute classic albums to his name which also introduced the world to the DITC crew... unfortunately VMP chose to release his 'other' album, which is still a solid effort but doesn't come close to his earlier albums... anyone uninspired by this pick could do a lot worse than picking up a repress of one of his earlier efforts which can both be found for very reasonable prices on Discogs... there's not a bad track across either album and no hip-hop collection is complete without them... Return of the Funkyman is worth it for this verse from Percee P alone which earned him a hip-hop quotable award in The Source and must rank as one of the best guest verses of all time...



And this is probably my favourite from his debut...

 
dhodo said:
I don't really understand why it is arguably one of the most important. Isn't the message just sex shouldn't be taboo and you could get an STD? Not like it was the first hip hop song to do that. Certainly a good message though.
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It was ground breaking at the time and amazing that a message like that was getting airplay at all. You gotta remember this was in the height of the AIDS epidemic which had a decidedly fear campaign approach to it up to that point.

Its hugely groundbreaking.
 
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