Get off my lawn!
Can we just acknowledge that this has nothing to do with VMP? What’s gone on the last couple days is really not okay, and your behavior is clearly beyond the pale at this point. I only see two potential reasons you’re acting the way you are; the first being that you’re trying to manipulate the mods on here to create a system that treats you as a “privileged” and an “important” member. You share this insider information and expect it to treated like holy scripture, and any negative feedback is held as blasphemous. VMP has a TON of issues at the moment, and you don’t get to dictate how people voice that on here. Your perception of personal attacks is warped, and again, a possible form of manipulation. You are taking negative feedback directed towards a company and calling members out on it as a personal attack, forcing them to defend themselves which you quickly twist to being bully tactics. Simply put, that’s wrong.
If i see something i'll notify you. We might make a comet is coming like deal again
If you're referring to the stuff about mental health than I don't know that I agree with this. I don't think mental health should be treated any differently than any other sort of health. The want to push it into the shadows and have it all dealt with privately and never let anyone know is very unhealthy and leads to many, many people not dealing with problems that could be solved or made manageable. I think it is fine for MikeyP to say what he said, especially since it didn't seem derogatory and came from a place of genuine concern. Whether it actually applies to Enoch or not only Enoch can know and can only be up for him to reveal or address publicly. That's his choice. To be fair, I haven't fully caught up on this discussion yet so maybe I've missed some context.
That’s fair. And I considered it, but didn’t feel like I knew him well enough to handle it that way. I realize this stuff is very touchy to deal with (to reiterate, I’ve battled my own demons), but it’s also tough to watch someone spiral. My inclination is that the first paragraph of what I wrote is not the issue at all, but he’s on his heels defending himself against an argument that is based on the surface assumption that it is. My own personal issues have occasionally required tough truths that weren’t always delivered with the most grace, but they jolted me into some semblance of recovery. However, I’m not him, and my personal experiences have little to do with him. I certainly considered that, but the heat he was taking for a fight that didn’t appear to be surface level on his end (again, to my eyes) looked very unhealthy to me.
This is exactly how Run Out Groove works. You pre order before they manufacture it. It's usually 2 or 3 months before it ships.
I think that’s how most standard pre orders are, right? I preordered Igor from Tyler the Creator and who knows when that will ship. My Whitney record won’t ship until the end of August and I ordered that at the beginning of the month. I’d say 3-4 months is fairly standard, no?
I thought the first paragraph was worse actually.
I agree bringing up that someone posts in that thread is not cool because that is a private place and up to the individual if they want to mention anything about that outside if there.
I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking someone may be having a health issue and offering help for it. It could very well be that the person's perceptions are wildly wrong. I think the post was inappropriate to accuse Enoch of being manipulative. I think he has the best intentions and I don't get the impression he is acting the way is is due to any unrelated issues. I think he got attacked the first time he brought this up and that has colored the way he approached sharing the information here this time and how he has reacted to other people's reactions.
