TCell
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This is actually how VMP used to do it. They used to charge International members $5 shipping for the first album they purchased in the store and then $3 for any additional albums. Looked like this:
Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)
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This is actually how VMP used to do it. They used to charge International members $5 shipping for the first album they purchased in the store and then $3 for any additional albums. Looked like this:
bdrummond
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So what you're saying is there's no earthy reason to do that again except pure unadulterated greed.
debar22
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When people stop buying records at the prices labels and companies put on them, they'll be left with a loss with stock on their shelves. They'll adjust & lower their prices. Then customers decide if the new prices are worth it. If they see an increase in interest, they'll maintain or raise the prices again. If not, they'll lower again. Rinse & repeat.
The vinyl bubble will pop eventually. Even if it doesn't pop right away, I'm sure we'll at least see some relief in prices over the next 18 months as people start having more things to spend their money on again.
In the meantime, just buy cheaper variants, or listen to streaming, or enjoy the records you already have, or enjoy other hobbies. As long as there's a market, the prices are going to be what they are, and even increase. I've said this before, too, but it's a double-edged sword. All the increasing interest in vinyl has caused prices (new & second-hand & rare) to skyrocket the last few years. But it has also gotten a lot of never-issued-on-vinyl and out-of-print records that I could never afford before to be re-pressed.
Just take the good and leave the bad. No one should be affected so much by being priced out of some records. It's a hobby, we should be enjoying it.
The vinyl bubble will pop eventually. Even if it doesn't pop right away, I'm sure we'll at least see some relief in prices over the next 18 months as people start having more things to spend their money on again.
In the meantime, just buy cheaper variants, or listen to streaming, or enjoy the records you already have, or enjoy other hobbies. As long as there's a market, the prices are going to be what they are, and even increase. I've said this before, too, but it's a double-edged sword. All the increasing interest in vinyl has caused prices (new & second-hand & rare) to skyrocket the last few years. But it has also gotten a lot of never-issued-on-vinyl and out-of-print records that I could never afford before to be re-pressed.
Just take the good and leave the bad. No one should be affected so much by being priced out of some records. It's a hobby, we should be enjoying it.
TCell
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So what you're saying is there's no earthy reason to do that again except pure unadulterated greed.
They've just built in the cost of shipping. I wish it was more transparent, but buyers are more likely to buy if they don't see costs added after the fact. It's pretty simple marketing psychology. And, for sure, it allows them to price creep.
As for the higher prices...for VMP and records in general, I have just been buying less. Curate, not accumulate.
Mather
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I REALLY need stores to open so I can sell a bajillion things...
Jeff Lerner
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This all day. This was my mantra when I first started buying records five years ago. I went a little nuts in 2020 and told myself it was retail therapy to help me get through the pandemic, but I am starting to cut back on buying and selling stuff I don't listen to.
Bsdmr2
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What’s a Gildan??
Hollywood
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It's a brand of apparel
zdkaiser
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cheap brand/manufacturer of cotton t-shirts.
Bsdmr2
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Oh! Thanks. I must be old!
Jeff Lerner
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Just noticed on cogs that someone already paid $150 for Folsom Prison. Is it possible to "fake" a cogs transaction where you basically sell something to yourself in order to artificially inflate prices?
Bsdmr2
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Like Fruit of the Loom??
wmeugene
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With two different accounts/addresses, sure. There's also buyers clubs where they collude to raise prices of certain items. So sending it to your friend and paying the discogs fee is a small price to pay to get the aftermarket price at 5-6x retail.
Tys1
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Explained, but essentially what @wmeugene said.
moral of the story, assume everything over msrp is shilled, if you’d still be happy with it knowing that then there’s no reason not to pull the trigger. Buy what you like at the price you want to pay for it, but if you’re “investing” in vinyl, you’re likely to get burned. There are buyers clubs popping up that control the secondary price.
It’s my tin foil hat theory that Vinceron and VMP are heads of the same buyers club and many VMP releases are shilled on the secondary in order to geurilla market being a member of the club. “$40 is a lot of money to be asking to be part of a club, so let’s mess with the secondary to make it seem like a bargain!”
MikeH
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avecigrec
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Basically, yeah.
bdrummond
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So for those awaiting for any of those VMP restocks: Pauly mentioned that no restocks happening today, and you will be notified by SMS and email BEFORE* any drops happen. Also update your waitlist items but that fills me with immense doubt.
*Actual proof they can pull this off successfully needed.
*Actual proof they can pull this off successfully needed.
oldschoolkirby
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I have a huge stack of stuff I need to sell. Lots of VMP FOMO things among them. I want to post them here first, for you fine people, then I'll try my hand at discogs for the collectible ones. Everything else will get me some credit at the local shop I suppose.
zdkaiser
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Does your local actually pay well? The few in my city offer pennies on the dollar. I find it easier to just sell on Discogs or online. That way I'm not getting $2 for a $25 record.
TenderLovingKiller®
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A cheap, boxy, ill-fitting t-shirt.
blenoxsmith
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I wish Darkside's Psychic Live was pressed as an exclusive, oh well.
My issue with VMP pricing is that there is no way I'm shelling out that cheese for a record if two conditions aren't met: 1) confirmation of pressing quality, and 2) I absolutely love the album. This pretty much eliminates any purchases of preorders because I'm waiting to hear the whole album for condition 2 to be met, and by the time I wait to get input on quality, most things are sold out. So, given this reality, I'm not re-upping my grandfathered pricing when it runs out. I had a nice run, and Throw Back Thursdays back in the day were certainly a highlight, but VMP and I are moving in different directions.
My issue with VMP pricing is that there is no way I'm shelling out that cheese for a record if two conditions aren't met: 1) confirmation of pressing quality, and 2) I absolutely love the album. This pretty much eliminates any purchases of preorders because I'm waiting to hear the whole album for condition 2 to be met, and by the time I wait to get input on quality, most things are sold out. So, given this reality, I'm not re-upping my grandfathered pricing when it runs out. I had a nice run, and Throw Back Thursdays back in the day were certainly a highlight, but VMP and I are moving in different directions.