Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

yea--i had heard this last week but he only just posted on linkedin today officially. other human CS people are still working there...but that has to be the final nail in the coffin.
Paulie was their last and best online defender. Letting him go was inevitable, he probably knew that. It's gotta be the walking dead at VMP now.

As the cash flow dwindles and the liabilities add up, every time a payroll comes around they have to decide who they can still afford and who they have to cut.
 
Rolled the dice on a 1 month with the 35% off sale to grab the last 4 in stock classics I was missing. Even though there will probably be a better full liquidation sale of some sort, I'd rather just order them now instead of fighting through a fire sale.

Didn't realize I couldn't swap so I guess I'm getting a random record of the month. Put in a request to CS but I doubt I hear back. Not trying to be a dick, but I'm considering a chargeback if I get radio silence cause fuck em why not if they're going under.

I doubt they fully crumble in 2 weeks so this will likely be my last order aside from some last ditch 75% off type shit.
You wouldn’t be able to swap until the selection window opens up next week or whatever (assuming they make it that long)
 
Rolled the dice on a 1 month with the 35% off sale to grab the last 4 in stock classics I was missing. Even though there will probably be a better full liquidation sale of some sort, I'd rather just order them now instead of fighting through a fire sale.

Didn't realize I couldn't swap so I guess I'm getting a random record of the month. Put in a request to CS but I doubt I hear back. Not trying to be a dick, but I'm considering a chargeback if I get radio silence cause fuck em why not if they're going under.

I doubt they fully crumble in 2 weeks so this will likely be my last order aside from some last ditch 75% off type shit.
There won’t be some 75% off going out of business sale. One day they will just be closed.
 
There won’t be some 75% off going out of business sale. One day they will just be closed.
This... some of the comments on Discord and Reddit are truly baffling... this is a company that has just laid off all its staff and effectively cancelled all of its future releases... their monthly shipping cost to fulfill, let's say, 5,000 member packages at an average cost of $10 per package would be $50k... where do people think this money is coming from? I assume nobody is now renewing subscriptions or buying product with cash at this point so their incoming cashflow is effectively zero... producing 1,000 Def Jam boxes at, let's say, $100 per box = $100k... forget about it!

Admittedly we don't know if they've pre-funded their shipping costs, how much cash they have in the bank or whether their PE backers have given them access to emergency funding to try to rescue the situation but I'd assume you're getting nothing more from them in either product or refunds and treat anything you do get as a bonus!
 
Admittedly we don't know if they've pre-funded their shipping costs, how much cash they have in the bank or whether their PE backers have given them access to emergency funding to try to rescue the situation but I'd assume you're getting nothing more from them in either product or refunds and treat anything you do get as a bonus!
I was amazed when I actually got a shipping notification on my last order. Was sure it would just be a case of order in, cash in the bin (or credit in this case but that was cash once upon a time to start with).

I was a little down about cancelling my nonesuch orders. Now I just think it means I’ll get something back. Even if it wasn’t exactly what I’d normally have picked.
 
This... some of the comments on Discord and Reddit are truly baffling... this is a company that has just laid off all its staff and effectively cancelled all of its future releases... their monthly shipping cost to fulfill, let's say, 5,000 member packages at an average cost of $10 per package would be $50k... where do people think this money is coming from? I assume nobody is now renewing subscriptions or buying product with cash at this point so their incoming cashflow is effectively zero... producing 1,000 Def Jam boxes at, let's say, $100 per box = $100k... forget about it!

Admittedly we don't know if they've pre-funded their shipping costs, how much cash they have in the bank or whether their PE backers have given them access to emergency funding to try to rescue the situation but I'd assume you're getting nothing more from them in either product or refunds and treat anything you do get as a bonus!
This isn’t a bed bath and beyond going out of business 😂😂. People truly don’t understand how this stuff works. You don’t lay off a third of your staff including two of the faces of the company because you have lots of cash laying around. The money will run out and they will be unable to fulfill orders. And they will be unable to pay the pressing plants for the preorders. There won’t be a 4
month wind down going out of business sale. It’ll just be gone one day. Either someone buys them and their assets on the cheap or they go under and assets are sold at auction.
 
My total speculation is the flash sale was used to try to generate the capital to fulfill as many March orders as they can. If there’s somehow money left over, they will try to use that to get the remaining preorders pressed and fulfilled. I’m not that optimistic they last much past next month.

Firing everyone will give some runway too
 
Right, but we don't know how much cash they have so stopping the bleeding could help a little or a lot
MikeH is absolutely right.

It has been clear for awhile.

There is only one reason for the absurdly lengthy production delays.

THEY ARE ON C.O.D. AT THE PRESSING PLANTS AND EVERY SUPPLIER. Or worse - they have to pay up front for the whole order. That causes them to lose at least 3 months cash flow as they no longer have payment terms at suppliers.

Layoffs give them a small one-time bit of runway. A month at most.

But the worst bleeding isn't just cash, it is bleeding customers. They have been experiencing the vinyl equivalent of a run on the bank. Once that starts, there is no stopping.

They should have some level of cash reserves to burn through - memberships paid in advance, preorders. But that must be pretty much gone by now.

They are likely searching for survival - a sale of the company, an infusion of venture capital (not likely) - or buying time before closing.

MikeH is right that it will simply be last person, turn out the lights. They will abruptly cease to exist.

In a small business bankruptcy, when it becomes impossible to deny the inevitable, you will typically see ownership in the last months building up as much cash as possible - taking orders they know will never be fulfilled, not paying any suppliers, not paying rent etc. - so the ownership can scoop as much cash as possible on their way out.
 
My total speculation is the flash sale was used to try to generate the capital to fulfill as many March orders as they can. If there’s somehow money left over, they will try to use that to get the remaining preorders pressed and fulfilled. I’m not that optimistic they last much past next month.
Almost certainly the case, but (and it's crazy to me that VMP don't seem to understand this)...
  • almost everything in that flash sale has been available previously at 40% off of a lower list price so it's bonkers to think that a 35% sale is going to create some sort of feeding frenzy that will save the business.
  • Hundreds (thousands even?) of people are sat on unused store credit and so would have seen the sale as an opportunity to use this up. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the sale ended up costing them money as it generates orders paid for with credit which they then have to pay real cash to ship. I placed an order in the sale using my remaining credit, so they made nothing from my order, I'm an active international member so they're going to have to pay what $20-30 to ship that order to me, that's all loss, and there will have been many others like me.
  • Who on earth is throwing good money after bad at this point?!
 
MikeH is absolutely right.

It has been clear for awhile.

There is only one reason for the absurdly lengthy production delays.

THEY ARE ON C.O.D. AT THE PRESSING PLANTS AND EVERY SUPPLIER. Or worse - they have to pay up front for the whole order. That causes them to lose at least 3 months cash flow as they no longer have payment terms at suppliers.

Layoffs give them a small one-time bit of runway. A month at most.

But the worst bleeding isn't just cash, it is bleeding customers. They have been experiencing the vinyl equivalent of a run on the bank. Once that starts, there is no stopping.

They should have some level of cash reserves to burn through - memberships paid in advance, preorders. But that must be pretty much gone by now.

They are likely searching for survival - a sale of the company, an infusion of venture capital (not likely) - or buying time before closing.

MikeH is right that it will simply be last person, turn out the lights. They will abruptly cease to exist.

In a small business bankruptcy, when it becomes impossible to deny the inevitable, you will typically see ownership in the last months building up as much cash as possible - taking orders they know will never be fulfilled, not paying any suppliers, not paying rent etc. - so the ownership can scoop as much cash as possible on their way out.
This is spot on what's happening.
 
Not that it really matters or changes anything, but I think y’all are thinking about shipping wrong. They pay a logistics firm (Saddle Creek) to ship their product. I don’t think they pay a per item price. I imagine they pay a fee based on their number of clients. Point being that if they have paid for a quarter assuming 3000 members and now have 1500, they could likely ship for a little while longer.
 
MikeH is absolutely right.


MikeH is right
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