Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

I've never heard of any small companies not being able to press the numbers they want. It seems to be based on how much money they want to put up. Do you have any info on that or is it just an assumption you're making? They press tens of thousands for every record of the month, I'm not sure why this would be different.

They could also repress based on demand but that would probably hurt FOMO marketing strategies.

I don't think it is really up for debate at this point that VMP doesn't have the same priorities as I do about record pressing. Certainly for exclusives. The Mobb Deep is a good example because when asked what pressing this was, they just said, "I don't know, Sony handled it." I think it is crazy that they don't care to know the details of the exclusives they are selling.

no I agree completely, I’ve little interest in essentials unless they are on sale, an actual exclusive I cant get elsewhere or I can get them as a swap. Im only interested in the 2 ROTM streams I like now and even then I’m much more discerning and am happy to not subscribe too when they go crap again!
 
Especially since, anecdotally anyway, it seems like just about every one of these 90's hip hop reissues they've done has sold out quickly, so they couldn't have been taken by surprise.
I guess this is a good example of our different viewpoints. To me this is pretty good evidence that using FOMO to immediately sell out a guaranteed number is more important to them than setting a higher number that there is a risk of not selling out in a very short time.

I guess I am more cynical about this than you.
 
Honestly I think reselling records in general would be a pain in the ass. I can sell a record new and it can easily be damaged in shipping , or can have some crackle and pops from a bad pressing that certainly isn’t the shippers fault . Just seems like more headache then it’s worth.

I generally ship albums exclusively in bullmoose shippers. Never have had an issue with getting something damaged from them, never had an issue shipping to someone else (knock on wood).
A faulty pressing on a sealed copy I feel is more buyers risk on discogs. It's why I'd be hesitant to purchase any "sealed" VMP release on there.
 
I guess this is a good example of our different viewpoints. To me this is pretty good evidence that using FOMO to immediately sell out a guaranteed number is more important to them than setting a higher number that there is a risk of not selling out in a very short time.

I guess I am more cynical about this than you.
I assumed that they’d want to press the number that maximized their revenue - isnt that the cynical position? I guess that while it makes sense to me that they have an interest in making things appear scarce to further certain medium- or long-term goals, I don’t see how that would make sense if it’s coming at the expense of the sales they’re trying to drive. Everyone around here seems to know a lot more about VMPs business than I do so you’re all probably right, but I’m missing a step in their underpants gnome plan here (1. Create less product than we could sell 2. Price it lower than the demand dictates 3. ??? 4. Profit).
 
I assumed that they’d want to press the number that maximized their revenue - isnt that the cynical position? I guess that while it makes sense to me that they have an interest in making things appear scarce to further certain medium- or long-term goals, I don’t see how that would make sense if it’s coming at the expense of the sales they’re trying to drive. Everyone around here seems to know a lot more about VMPs business than I do so you’re all probably right, but I’m missing a step in their underpants gnome plan here (1. Create less product than we could sell 2. Price it lower than the demand dictates 3. ??? 4. Profit).
For me it seems pretty well balanced. They print as much as they decided they think they can sell out in a short period of time. I think there is a balance between tiny press and pressing too many to quickly recoup the costs. It is definitely overpriced for what it is, but because there is a very real threat of it selling out, people disregard the extra $5-10 dollars due to FOMO. Price it too high (like the going rate for the much smaller number of second hand sales than total pressed) and it backfires and doesn't sell at all.

One advantage to this model is their cost is recouped very quickly from when they order presses, in some cases, probably before they have to pay more than a deposit since they have presses delayed for 6 months. Then they can immediately invest that in another, different, limited FOMO pressing and rinse and repeat. If they miscalculated on the first one and ordered double, they might not have sold out quickly and then how long it will take them to recoup costs is an unknown and at least a slight gamble and they might have to wait longer before ordering the next press.

I'm sure I'm getting something wrong but it makes sense to have guaranteed money in hand and built in marketing for people to want to jump on the next release. Just look at all the people here who are glad they broke their VMP FOMO and somewhat regret some of the albums they bought because they got caught up in it.
 
When I first started collecting records I went to a Record Store Day and bought about 7 records I wanted . I didn’t know anything about color exclusives or anything so when I found out one of my records was selling for 100s on eBay because of the color I sold it paid for all my other records and bought a standard black copy and still made some money, to take my kid to six flags .Didn’t think anything of until later when I found out on a forum that I was the scum of the universe. Haven’t sold any since but I understand why somebody would.
Yeah, I have mixed feelings on things like this. If you buy an album solely to flip, you suck and are one of the worst parts about collecting. But if you buy an album for retail with the intention of keeping it and then find out it's selling for $80-100+, I dont really think theres anything wrong with selling it.
I have a copy of The Simple Favor soundtrack I bought from UO for $21 and it's now out of print and selling for over $100 on discogs since there were only 450 pressed. I really like the album and definitely would keep it for $21, but do I like it more than $100? Not so sure about that.
Im a bit late to the party on this one, but I will offer up my 2 cents. So im 100% against flippers when they buy
up as much stock as they can with the sole intention of selling it for a massive profit. BUT I myself have been in the
position where I have bought 2 of the same record from abroad, with the sole intention of selling one for a profit in
order too pay off the international shipping (if that makes sense?). This hasn't been with limited pressings, although in one case it was with one-day only sales (I bought 2 copies of Frank Oceans Endless for £76 inc shipping). Now when I went to
sell this second one I just selected the average on discogs (cant remember the exact price but I imagine it was around
what I paid for the 2, it would have made no sense whatsoever to list it for less than that imo).

As a second example I was one of the people that bought a copy of Frank Oceans Blond when it was released. By the time
it made its way to me it had, as you all know, shot up crazily in value. Its still on my shelf, unopened and one day I
will likely sell it for wayyyy more than the £40 it cost me. I dont personally see this as a shitty move though, I know
its current monetary value is way above what I personally consider it to be worth (which is why I havent opened it)
and to list it for what I bought it for (or even a few quid more) would be a stupid move on my part? If someone had bought up as much as they could and held onto all of them to sell on then I would be totally pissed off IF there was a limited number available. But when its a situation when theres a limitless amount then its just the same as any other investment IMO.

That being said, screw the guys that bought up the Infamous record and listed it within seconds on ebay. Thats shady as
hell.
 
I actually think it has a better shot of being Frank Ocean- Channel Orange. Mainly because it seems like we are gearing up for a Frank Ocean album cycle, it makes sense. My odds are....

1. Something everyone will be disappointed by
2. Frank Ocean- Channel Orange
3. Fiona Apple- Pawn
4. Fiona Apple- Idler
5. Bon Iver- i, i
 
Also so glad I was able to grab the VMP FKA twigs. Album of the damn year.
I really enjoyed MAGDALENE, but the best albums of the year for me are:

Weyes Blood - Titanic Rising
Caroline Polachek - Pang
Tyler The Creator- IGOR
JPEGMAFIA - All My Heroes Are Cornballs
Little Simz - Grey Area
Lana Del Rey - Norman Fucking Rockwell!

But I did really enjoy MAGDALENE! And Cellophane is the best song of the year, along with Lizzo’s Juice, Sudan Archives’ Confessions, Stella Donnelly’s Tricks, Big Thief’s U.F.O.F., Charli XCX’s Gone, Caroline Polachek’s So Hot You’re Hurting My Feelings, Lana Del Rey’s The Greatest & Weyes Blood’s Andromeda 🔥🔥🔥
 
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