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TenderLovingKiller® said:
That would mean you trust the numbers put out by the Chinese government. I would be skeptical of both them and Iran from a numbers standpoint.
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The death toll numbers should be relatively solid in China. They also took drastic measures to slow the spread.

Iran is another story. They lost control early and never caught up. Though they do have a very high death rate suggesting they are catching the deaths but way underestimating the infection rate.
 
ByersVinyl said:
Maybe so - But surely using other countries as models for best Practice and using their data to perfect your own measures makes sense ? - See Italy & China for example. I dont i agi e 5e data is anywhere bear accurate in these areas, but 5he measures they put in place certainly stopped the spread.
Im no expert just going off what im reading.

I just cant see more testing ever producing anywhere bear an accurate number. Can you not still go off percentages of positives from smaller sample numbers ?
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I'm not going to harp too much more on this, but we have different demographics from these countries and have a different culture--and yes, this does make a difference as to what we think is appropriate distance from someone on a cultural basis, as well as how we greet people and how close we are within families (multigenerational housing). Also, stats from far away don't help individual states or other local governments to make informed decisions.

I read an article that type A blood could be more susceptible to COVID-19 whereas type O is most resilient. Where I live, type A is very prevalent.
batkins said:
I work at a hospital in Washington State. We've had 3 deaths and positive cases over 20. They are NOT taking temps here. They are NOT testing healthcare workers. We cancelled our sugeries/procedures deemed "elective". We've limited who comes in/out to people with a reason to be there plus 1.
We also had anti-viral wipes and face masks w/eye shields go on backorder for us today.

Just stay home if you can people. It's gonna get ugly out there.
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I had a medical appointment that had been scheduled and they told me to come on in. They took my temperature at the door and only let me in because I had no temp and I had an appointment. They weren't letting anyone who didn't have an appointment in. The waiting room was reconfigured and a lot of the chairs were gone. The chairs were set up in twos with about five feet of distance between each group of two chairs.
Turbo said:
Why are the very young so unaffected? In a usual outbreak, the very young form another usually smaller peak of severe outcome because their immune system is not experienced enough. Not here. One possibility I read about (sorry, don't remember the reference) is that the immune system in some older people has seen something like this and uses the old ineffective antibodies to fight this instead of making new ones, causing the fatal lung flooding.
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This is actually why the Spanish Flu of 1918 was so bad. Young people were making the wrong antibodies.

They found that a human H1 virus that had been circulating among humans since around 1900 picked up genetic material from a bird flu virus just before 1918 and this became the deadly pandemic strain.

Exposure to previous strains of flu virus does offer some protection to new strains. This is because the immune system reacts to proteins on the surface of the virus and makes antibodies that are summoned the next time a similar virus tries to infect the body.

But the further away the new strain is genetically from the ones the body has previously been exposed to, the more different the surface proteins, the less effective the antibodies and the more likely that infection will take hold.

This is what the authors suggest happened to the young adults in the 1918 pandemic. In their childhood around 1880 to 1900, they were exposed to a supposed H3N8 virus that was circulating in the population. This virus had surface proteins that were very different from those of the H1N1 pandemic strain. Their immune system would have made antibodies, but they would have been ineffective against the H1N1 virus.

“We believe that the mismatch between antibodies trained to H3 virus protein and the H1 protein of the 1918 virus may have resulted in the heightened mortality in the age group that happened to be in their late 20s during the pandemic.”

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Why was 1918 flu pandemic so deadly? Research offers new clue

In 1918, a flu virus took only a few months to kill three times more people than World War I. Now, a new study suggests exposure during childhood may explain why it was so deadly.
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Turbo said:
The death toll numbers should be relatively solid in China. They also took drastic measures to slow the spread.

Iran is another story. They lost control early and never caught up. Though they do have a very high death rate suggesting they are catching the deaths but way underestimating the infection rate.
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They may have taken drastic measures but the Chinese Government is completely self-serving and if they feel Lowballing the numbers better serves the People’s Republic, then that’s what they’ll do. Not a bastion of truth, and no free press to hold them in account.
 
Update on Netflix. They have implemented a reduction of streaming quality to SD only for the next 30 days for all of Europe.

That leaves many people wondering, will they do the same here in the United States? The answer is they are considering it and looking at the data to see if is needed. If HD streaming is having an impact on kids being able to take classes online or business VPNs they will most definitely do the same here in the United States.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
They may have taken drastic measures but the Chinese Government is completely self-serving and if they feel Lowballing the numbers better serves the People’s Republic, then that’s what they’ll do. Not a bastion of truth, and no free press to hold them in account.
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I agree. They may have low-balled both deaths and infection numbers, who knows. Their death rate numbers seems to track though.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're lowballing new case numbers right now though.

It also seems like they were calling cases as being resolved very early too.
 
Went for a walk around the city today and it felt nice. But i was surprised how normal it felt. Average amount of people walking, average amount of traffic on the roads. Also decided to go to my favorite local ice cream place to give them a bit of business (and cause it’s good). They’re only allowing you to come in and get it then leave. And there was literally no one else there. That’s the only stark difference in normalcy it seems.

Today the mayor is I believe forcing all restaurants and bars to close their dining area. We still are at a minimum of positive cases, 2 or 3 depending on where you’re counting. But they are sticking firm to who can get tested still, and none of that is apparently even available in our county.
 
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