Definitive Audiophile pressings

Just got a couple more Dylan titles through from Japan (Along with Blow Up), I wasn't really expecting these to be AAA, from the master tapes as they are pressed & mastered in Japan. But really liked the Highway 61 pressing from a few years ago, so thought I would give them a go.

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Haven't listened to them yet, but had a look at google translate & got this from the Hype sticker. Google doesn't give a perfect translation, but. 'Cutting based on the analogue master' would imply it's AAA. Does anyone have any information about Japanese Dylan, do Columbia /Sony have Back up tapes (or even master tapes) in Japan?

I know 'based' on analogue master could mean from a digital transfer, but seems unusual for a Japan release to mention the analogue master at all

@RHANDMJ I seem to remember you knew something about this?

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Sony Japan, as with most other labels in Japan, would have received a second gen copy of the master tape back in the day. Those mostly still exist, and would have been stored very well and remain in outstanding condition - often much better condition than the first gen master tape.

I only have the Highway 61. It is great. I got rid of my MOFI simply because I dislike 45 rpm, but I gave up nothing sound-wise, in fact, Japanese mastering engineers - despite not being part of the 'celebrity mastering engineer cult' - are easily just as good as the 'name' guys. It lacks the plumminess of the MOFI but has an honest representation in great clarity and tone going for it - fair trade IMO.
 
Sony Japan, as with most other labels in Japan, would have received a second gen copy of the master tape back in the day. Those mostly still exist, and would have been stored very well and remain in outstanding condition - often much better condition than the first gen master tape.

I only have the Highway 61. It is great. I got rid of my MOFI simply because I dislike 45 rpm, but I gave up nothing sound-wise, in fact, Japanese mastering engineers - despite not being part of the 'celebrity mastering engineer cult' - are easily just as good as the 'name' guys. It lacks the plumminess of the MOFI but has an honest representation in great clarity and tone going for it - fair trade IMO.
Great insight. I have MOFI mono copies of HW61 and BIABH, but was looking at stereo options. I have the Japan HW61 and like it. Wasn’t sure which direction to go on BIABH. I don’t love 45, but would love an amazing sounding copy. The Japan is 1/3 of the price…..
 
Great insight. I have MOFI mono copies of HW61 and BIABH, but was looking at stereo options. I have the Japan HW61 and like it. Wasn’t sure which direction to go on BIABH. I don’t love 45, but would love an amazing sounding copy. The Japan is 1/3 of the price…..
I must say, the mono MoFi absolutely stomped my pretty clean original copy. I never liked the album in stereo though but I would wager the MoFi is the best sounding. I also don’t mind this album in 45 rpm even though it’s a lot of flipping. I used to have a 70’s stereo reissue but got rid of that a long while ago.
 
Interested to see some feedback on the MoFi DSOTM.
My '73 jp copy delivers tomorrow.

On another note, the runout from Miles BB don't match the seller's ad. Kind of a bummer... bright side is the vinyl is dead quite, flawless.
This is still a nice copy to own. Seller offered a return but I'm going to settle with this '75 NM release. $31 can't complain it seems.

 
Interested to see some feedback on the MoFi DSOTM.
My '73 jp copy delivers tomorrow.

On another note, the runout from Miles BB don't match the seller's ad. Kind of a bummer... bright side is the vinyl is dead quite, flawless.
This is still a nice copy to own. Seller offered a return but I'm going to settle with this '75 NM release. $31 can't complain it seems.

I'm very interested to hear Mofi DSOTM... but I'm headed to work so it'll have to wait till tomorrow. I also just picked this up because after an earlier Japanese press I was really curious what they did on this repress two years later...
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Both used the copy tapes (I think...) but there were slightly different mixes. And although I haven't gotten through it all its a really interesting difference in sound between the 1976 one above and the earlier 1974 pressing...

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Okay so, here are the reasons that I grabbed a second Revolver.

That 74 Japanese Apple pressing is unlike any version of Revolver I've ever heard. It almost sounds like they just took the studio recording and put it straight to wax with almost no EQ. Well, it's conceivable because early Japanese pressings tended to favor detail and non coloured sound from what I've read. It's kinda incredible but it's also bright. But I've never heard the album sound like this. The voices and the instruments are completely present, no softened veil across the songs which is what I've always heard from this one. BUT.... it's sibilant as all get out. Not much bass and pretty bright. But it sounds to me like what it probably sounded like in the studio before it was mixed... So really interesting, and really cool, but also harsh at times.
So I was curious to see if this quick repress meant that they had addressed some of these issues. And it turns out that's exactly what they did. They killed the harsh "S's" and basically got rid of the sibilance BUT in doing so it seems like they basically dropped the treble across the whole album which then also affects the extension on the instruments. They also upped the bass. So it's a totally different listen and much more in line with the way in which I've always heard the album sound.

So it's a really interesting choice between the two.
 
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Okay so, here are the reasons that I grabbed a second Revolver.

That 74 Japanese Apple pressing is unlike any version of Revolver I've ever heard. It almost sounds like they just took the studio recording and put it straight to wax with almost no EQ. Well, it's conceivable because early Japanese pressings tended to favor detail and non coloured sound from what I've read. It's kinda incredible but it's also bright. But I've never heard the album sound like this. The voices and the instruments are completely present, no softened veil across the songs which is what I've always heard from this one. BUT.... it's sibilant as all get out. Not much bass and pretty bright. But it sounds to me like what it probably sounded like in the studio before it was mixed... So really interesting, and really cool, but also harsh at times.
So I was curious to see if this quick repress meant that they had addressed some of these issues. And it turns out that's exactly what they did. They killed the harsh "S's" and basically got rid of the sibilance BUT in doing so it seems like they basically dropped the treble across the whole album which them also affects the extension on the instruments. They also upped the bass. So it's a totally different listen and much more in line with the way in which I've always heard the album sound.

So it's a really interesting choice between the two.
Thanks for the analysis. Interesting choice, and interesting that those differences exist two years apart.
 
Thanks for the analysis. Interesting choice, and interesting that those differences exist two years apart.
Yeah I'd seen some stuff written on Hoffman about the differences between the Apple (the 74) and the EAS (the 76) releases with them predominantly saying the EAS are all super bright and terrible. That is the exact opposite of what is happening with this one. The EAS is no where near as bright as the earlier Apple, but the Apple isn't unlistenable or anything, if anything it's a much more interesting listen, but just way more raw.
 
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Okay so, here are the reasons that I grabbed a second Revolver.

That 74 Japanese Apple pressing is unlike any version of Revolver I've ever heard. It almost sounds like they just took the studio recording and put it straight to wax with almost no EQ. Well, it's conceivable because early Japanese pressings tended to favor detail and non coloured sound from what I've read. It's kinda incredible but it's also bright. But I've never heard the album sound like this. The voices and the instruments are completely present, no softened veil across the songs which is what I've always heard from this one. BUT.... it's sibilant as all get out. Not much bass and pretty bright. But it sounds to me like what it probably sounded like in the studio before it was mixed... So really interesting, and really cool, but also harsh at times.
So I was curious to see if this quick repress meant that they had addressed some of these issues. And it turns out that's exactly what they did. They killed the harsh "S's" and basically got rid of the sibilance BUT in doing so it seems like they basically dropped the treble across the whole album which then also affects the extension on the instruments. They also upped the bass. So it's a totally different listen and much more in line with the way in which I've always heard the album sound.

So it's a really interesting choice between the two.

Damn, now I'm curious about how these differ from the Japanese 1966 ODEON stereo I have.
 
Is ODEON still around or out for some time now?
Not any real experience with the label.


RCJP brought these OGs gems last week.
Everything looks brand new for the most part. Sound is as good or better than ever hoped for.
I'll keep sending Benjamins.
 

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Which do you prefer? I actually have the '76 EAS, and though I do have other Japanese pressings of Beatles albums, I don't have different Japanese pressings of the same albums, so I've never heard the '74 Apple...
I'm still trying to figure that out to be honest. The 76 is excellent but it sounds very similar to every other stereo version I've heard. I need to A/B it against the newer master to see if it in fact has more detail. But the 74 has SO much detail and it's much more live sounding. The voices are so present in the room with you. But it's much more harsh and untamed, in terms of the sibilance and the highs being a bit overbearing, and the lows being a bit lacking. But it's just so different from how I've ever heard it sound. I'm going to do a shootout between the 3 and get back to you on that... I'd love to hear the Japanese Mono... But that one's not yet in the cards...
 
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