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Ok here's one for you sleuths out there. @Joe Mac maybe this rings a bell for you.
When Musical Fidelity released the Nu Vista 800 integrated in 2014 it originally looked like this (I think)...

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Came in silver and black and faceplate showed the heat sink fins on each side.
At some point the faceplate changed and started to look like this:
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No fins. What I'm trying to determine is when this happened and whether anything else was changed in the unit or was it just the faceplate. Cannot find any mention of it online, and it appears the 800 is the only model prior to the 800.2 that was released this year

I've looked like crazy and I can't find an answer to this. Also called Musical Fidelity but no answer... Thoughts?

Musical Fidelity closed out the original Nu Vista line when Project bought them out. The only thing from that original line that stuck beyond that was the phono stage. Its now also been discontinued. They relaunched the Nu Vista line with newer, bigger and sleeker looking gear this year. A new phono, pre and power amps and an integrated. They also all have the ability to each be powered by an equally as big and bulky power supply. They all cost infinitely more than the old range.

The top is the old range the bottom is the new. Both are available in black and silver.

Edit: Seeing your later post it is a completely different amplifier, rebuilt from the ground up, they've just kept the idea of using Nu Vistor tubes. You'll only find the old one from the top picture on the discontinued products bit of their website id imagine.
 
Also, sorry @Mather that is actually all very confusing. They've called the new line all phono 2 or 800.2 apart from the pre and power and DAC which never existed in the first set of products. There is randomly no mention of a non .2 600 or 800. But then the first line of 600 and 800 are discontinued. Perhaps it's all very new stuff and they've not caught up online?
 
I could be wrong but I don’t think @Mather is saying there is a non .2 in production but rather that the original 800 and 600s had a facelift and he wants to know if it was anything besides an aesthetic choice for the casing/faceplate.
 
As an amusing aside... while I was at the Audio Show I asked the Focal rep how many Grand Utopias he had set up across North America. He said roughly 60. I then asked what the smallest room was he had to install them into. He says 10 by 12 feet. Just for reference these speakers are 6.5 feet tall, weigh 600 lbs each and cost $280,000 USD for the pair.

TEN BY TWELVE FEET!

He also said he set one pair up in a condo unit.
 
As an amusing aside... while I was at the Audio Show I asked the Focal rep how many Grand Utopias he had set up across North America. He said roughly 60. I then asked what the smallest room was he had to install them into. He says 10 by 12 feet. Just for reference these speakers are 6.5 feet tall, weigh 600 lbs each and cost $280,000 USD for the pair.

TEN BY TWELVE FEET!

He also said he set one pair up in a condo unit.
That's more or less the size of my living room and my JBL L82s are probably too much for the room. I don't even want to know how shitty they must sound like, even in a super well treated room
 
It appears the 600 had a similar change but again, can't find a single mention of it anywhere online or on their website. And some locals have the finned ones and others have the flat faceplate but none know why hahaha... I thought it might have been an old mockup that just got erroneously used online for the product image but then I saw a listing at another location for a used unit and it's clearly the 800 with a flat faceplate...
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If it's got the heat sinks on the sides, I wouldn't really stress about it. This is more likely a symptom of new tooling or changing where it's being manufactured. But I would assume the schematics are exactly the same, and the parts or all the same. At most, maybe change the branding on caps from one Chinese one to another made to the same specs.


@Mather
Upscale has it in stock and on sale. They show the original design, maybe you could call them and ask:
I hadn't seen the inside of these until this listing, and it looks quite similar to the Kinki Studio ex-m1+.
Not trying to say they sound the same. Just fairly similar layouts overall.
 
So two years ago I bought my dad a stereo system for Christmas because he wanted a nice system to stream and play CDs on. He already had a NAD 316BEE amp so I got him a pair of Mission LX3 MKII speakers, a used Arcam CDS27 SACD player, a Wiim Pro Plus with Qobuz and Blue Jeans cables. All just good starter stuff and I expected it would sound nice and fit the bill but wouldn't really be anything special. I'm visiting him out west right now and today is the first time I've actually heard it and honestly this thing absolutely slaps. I'm shocked. I really didn't do anything too crazy. It's all very reasonably priced gear but holy hell the bass and stage on this thing is massive. Really really impressed with the Mission speakers, I'd never heard them before but these are fantastic. Big 6.5 inch woofers on them with deep low bass and great extension on the treble. And really like the functionality of the Wiim Pro, lots of impressive adjustability. Room correction, although I'm not using it, couldn't really get it to sound right without an external mic... great EQ options and lots of sound profiles. Really really impressed with what this gear is doing, Qobuz high res sounds unreal. I adjusted a couple things when I got here. Pulled the bass plugs out of the speakers and toed them out a little bit and they just got massive... super fun.

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So two years ago I bought my dad a stereo system for Christmas because he wanted a nice system to stream and play CDs on. He already had a NAD 316BEE amp so I got him a pair of Mission LX3 MKII speakers, a used Arcam CDS27 SACD player, a Wiim Pro Plus with Qobuz and Blue Jeans cables. All just good starter stuff and I expected it would sound nice and fit the bill but wouldn't really be anything special. I'm visiting him out west right now and today is the first time I've actually heard it and honestly this thing absolutely slaps. I'm shocked. I really didn't do anything too crazy. It's all very reasonably priced gear but holy hell the bass and stage on this thing is massive. Really really impressed with the Mission speakers, I'd never heard them before but these are fantastic. Big 6.5 inch woofers on them with deep low bass and great extension on the treble. And really like the functionality of the Wiim Pro, lots of impressive adjustability. Room correction, although I'm not using it, couldn't really get it to sound right without an external mic... great EQ options and lots of sound profiles. Really really impressed with what this gear is doing, Qobuz high res sounds unreal. I adjusted a couple things when I got here. Pulled the bass plugs out of the speakers and toed them out a little bit and they just got massive... super fun.

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Qobuz is awesome. I think it's the leader going forward. Enjoy your visit!
 
So two years ago I bought my dad a stereo system for Christmas because he wanted a nice system to stream and play CDs on. He already had a NAD 316BEE amp so I got him a pair of Mission LX3 MKII speakers, a used Arcam CDS27 SACD player, a Wiim Pro Plus with Qobuz and Blue Jeans cables. All just good starter stuff and I expected it would sound nice and fit the bill but wouldn't really be anything special. I'm visiting him out west right now and today is the first time I've actually heard it and honestly this thing absolutely slaps. I'm shocked. I really didn't do anything too crazy. It's all very reasonably priced gear but holy hell the bass and stage on this thing is massive. Really really impressed with the Mission speakers, I'd never heard them before but these are fantastic. Big 6.5 inch woofers on them with deep low bass and great extension on the treble. And really like the functionality of the Wiim Pro, lots of impressive adjustability. Room correction, although I'm not using it, couldn't really get it to sound right without an external mic... great EQ options and lots of sound profiles. Really really impressed with what this gear is doing, Qobuz high res sounds unreal. I adjusted a couple things when I got here. Pulled the bass plugs out of the speakers and toed them out a little bit and they just got massive... super fun.

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I'll still contend and I think a lot of us realize this, but now a days, you really don't need to spend a fortune to get a great sounding system up and running. Honestly, the money sink in a system ends up becoming vinyl, but only if you're neurotically chasing the perfect sound...............nobody around here of course ;)
 
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As an amusing aside... while I was at the Audio Show I asked the Focal rep how many Grand Utopias he had set up across North America. He said roughly 60. I then asked what the smallest room was he had to install them into. He says 10 by 12 feet. Just for reference these speakers are 6.5 feet tall, weigh 600 lbs each and cost $280,000 USD for the pair.

TEN BY TWELVE FEET!

He also said he set one pair up in a condo unit.
The guy in the condo can’t afford a house because he spent $28k on speakers
 
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