Hot Take/ Musical Confession Thread!

gaporter said:
I miss when people sat with a new release for at least a couple of days instead of forcing themselves to form a concrete opinion of an entire album on first listen.
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I dunno I think that people have always had tonnes of rotten opinions to spew on everything in real time as they happen. The internet has unleashed them all instantly rather than the one that happened to existing at the time you happened to be talking to them…
 
Joe Mac said:
I dunno I think that people have always had tonnes of rotten opinions to spew on everything in real time as they happen. The internet has unleashed them all instantly rather than the one that happened to existing at the time you happened to be talking to them…
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Yeah I deleted my original post because I read it back and it just seemed whiny 😂
 
Joe Mac said:
I dunno I think that people have always had tonnes of rotten opinions to spew on everything in real time as they happen. The internet has unleashed them all instantly rather than the one that happened to existing at the time you happened to be talking to them…
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Yeah, One of my favorite things is reading old music reviews where the reviewer completely missed the mark based off how an album became regarded in a historical context. Pitchfork is obviously full of them but old Spin and Rolling Stone reviews are fun too!
 
gaporter said:
Speaking as someone who loved the prequels as a kid, I have always felt that the discourse around Star Wars wouldn't be nearly as toxic as it is if people weren't so insecure about a piece of media they like being perceived as being "for kids." For whatever reason, people have this idea that the franchises they loved as children are supposed to no longer be for children once they're older. Probably because a lot of people don't like the idea that a movie isn't made to appeal to them specifically. It's the kind of mentality that made The Rise of Skywalker the mess of cowardly backpedaling and empty fanservice that it was and it's why that movie basically turned me off from the series altogether. Not just because it was lame, but because it felt like the filmmakers throwing their hands in the air and saying "whatever" and for me, when it gets to that point, it's probably just time to stop watching.

Say what you will about the prequels - and they are far from perfect - but Lucas knew what story he wanted to tell and didn't compromise his vision to tell it. They were the OG trilogy for a new generation and despite the fact that people forgive the original films' faults because of their nostalgia, it's inconceivable to them when someone who grew up with the prequels holds the same attitude towards those movies.
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What's "Star Wars" ?
 
Dtknuckles said:
Maybe I’m missing some inside joke, but naming this album like this seemed like a weird move.
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I have never looked to see if this is right, but I always thought it was in reference to Reagan's Star Wars and not the movies. But that would still be weird and the cat doesn't help with either interpretation.
 
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Hemotep said:
I'll show my true nerdy colors. I loved Star Trek growing up and thought Star Wars was just ok. The prequels we're the first I got to see in the theater, and despite there being elements that were cheesey, I enjoyed watching them in theaters. The new ones on the other hand I did not enjoy watching. I thought they were a hot mess. With the exception of Rogue One which was an adult Star Wars and the best of the new ones in my opinion. My step son was 11 when that came out and he did not like it, despite loving Star Wars. He didn't really like any of the new ones a whole lot except the Hans Solo one and that one ball shaped droid. I'm just of the opinion that JJ Abrams is not good. But I don't really care about him messing up Star Wars, I'm pissed at him for messing up Star Trek.
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I never watched TNG as a kid but I found it as an adult and I love it. I don’t even mind Wesley.

I vaguely remember seeing Return of the Jedi with my dad when I was 4. I thought Ewoks were bears and I told my dad I wanted a bear. I grew up with the original trilogy and was excited to see the prequels in my early 20’s. I thought they were really okay but I felt that it leaned too much on CG. The political theater was a snooze but thankfully I was watching these movies with someone who already knew a ton about the expanded universe to give me the tl;dr. The only new Star Wars movie I’ve enjoyed was Rogue One. I am still looking forward to the Obi Wan show but that’s got as much to do with Ewan McGregor as it does with it being Star Wars.

I would have said that I preferred Star Wars in my 20’s and 30’s but the more Star Trek I watch, the more I like it. I might actually prefer it to Star Wars.
 
gaporter said:
Speaking as someone who loved the prequels as a kid, I have always felt that the discourse around Star Wars wouldn't be nearly as toxic as it is if people weren't so insecure about a piece of media they like being perceived as being "for kids." For whatever reason, people have this idea that the franchises they loved as children are supposed to no longer be for children once they're older. Probably because a lot of people don't like the idea that a movie isn't made to appeal to them specifically. It's the kind of mentality that made The Rise of Skywalker the mess of cowardly backpedaling and empty fanservice that it was and it's why that movie basically turned me off from the series altogether. Not just because it was lame, but because it felt like the filmmakers throwing their hands in the air and saying "whatever" and for me, when it gets to that point, it's probably just time to stop watching.

Say what you will about the prequels - and they are far from perfect - but Lucas knew what story he wanted to tell and didn't compromise his vision to tell it. They were the OG trilogy for a new generation and despite the fact that people forgive the original films' faults because of their nostalgia, it's inconceivable to them when someone who grew up with the prequels holds the same attitude towards those movies.
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I loved the prequels, and I was in my 20s when they came out. I still love them, even with the clunky writing/directing. I'd put Sith up in my top 3 of the Star Wars films.
I still think that, had Lucan been more of a story writer/overseer for the prequels, they would've surpassed the OT. I think the story is better, frankly.

As far as the sequel trilogy, and the 2 stories films, the only one I absolutely did not like (and have only watched once) is RoS.
 
gaporter said:
Speaking as someone who loved the prequels as a kid, I have always felt that the discourse around Star Wars wouldn't be nearly as toxic as it is if people weren't so insecure about a piece of media they like being perceived as being "for kids." For whatever reason, people have this idea that the franchises they loved as children are supposed to no longer be for children once they're older. Probably because a lot of people don't like the idea that a movie isn't made to appeal to them specifically. It's the kind of mentality that made The Rise of Skywalker the mess of cowardly backpedaling and empty fanservice that it was and it's why that movie basically turned me off from the series altogether. Not just because it was lame, but because it felt like the filmmakers throwing their hands in the air and saying "whatever" and for me, when it gets to that point, it's probably just time to stop watching.

Say what you will about the prequels - and they are far from perfect - but Lucas knew what story he wanted to tell and didn't compromise his vision to tell it. They were the OG trilogy for a new generation and despite the fact that people forgive the original films' faults because of their nostalgia, it's inconceivable to them when someone who grew up with the prequels holds the same attitude towards those movies.
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1. Empire
2. S/T
3. Jedi
4. Solo

5-?? Everything else.
 
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