Hot Take/ Musical Confession Thread!

wokeupnew said:
Idk if I'd call it punk. It's like noise rock. Their first album is more similar to Swans than it is Ramones or The Clash. It's very abrasive. But I don't want to get into a genre debate. I agree that they evolved their sound tremendously. Their first album sounds nothing like their later work.
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SY started from a punk ethos maybe not strictly straight ahead punk but No Wave, Art Punk. They were signed to SST when they started out. They never fit perfectly under the punk heading but Indie Rock wasn’t really a thing yet. 80s punk/underground was kind of its own thing; Mission Of Burma, The Meat Puppets, Butthole Surfers, Big Black, Sonic Youth, these bands aren’t necessarily Punk bands in the traditional sense but they all kind of evolved out of a place of punk rock.
 
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duke86fan said:
I kinda don't get why people love daydream nation by sonic youth so much.. maybe I just recorded more aggression or just 20 more teen age riots but the rest of the songs just never hit for me, they were just kinda discordant punk songs, in interested in trying other albums from them like goo and washing machine though
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I love Daydream Nation because it rips. Lots chaotic guitar sounds working against beautiful somewhat hidden melody. It’s basically what I love about Indie Rock in general. Finding beauty in dissonance.
 
duke86fan said:
Unrelated it's not like I can't handle no wave, I really liked no new York, I just guess sonic youth isn't my kind of band
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Maybe not. They had a rather long career over which they kind of adjust the level on how much Pop they allow to come through the chaos. Also how aggressive or noisy they are. Earlier albums are a bit noisier later albums are a bit more poppy.

If your still curious after listening to Daydream Nation give Goo and Sister a listen and if you like Goo a bit more move forward to Dirty or Washing Machine. If you like Sister move backwards to EVOL and Bad Moon Rising and if you don’t care for either and still aren’t ready to give up, Jump ahead to Murray St. and see if the Jim O’Rourke era does anything for ya.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
I love Daydream Nation because it rips. Lots chaotic guitar sounds working against beautiful somewhat hidden melody. It’s basically what I love about Indie Rock in general. Finding beauty in dissonance.
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Funnily enough, I really love Sonic Youth, but you know indie rock in general, not really my thing.

I went to Lollapalooza when they were sharing headline duties with the Smashing Pumpkins. My friends bailed (as did a lot of the audience) after pumpkins, but I stayed and got to see a smoking rendition of Diamond Sea.
 
Dtknuckles said:
Why do you think you connect with Joni more?


I was listing to both this morning on my way into work. I was comparing their attitudes to song form

Joni: shut the fuck AABA I’m telling a story here!

Dan: I hate you for making me feel so good (as with most things with them). 😂
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I think with Joni a lot of it is that she isn’t just telling a story. Whilst she is doing that, and is one of the very best at it to my mind, she also uses language in a very interesting way. It can feel to me that she’s painting pictures and setting scenes with words. Also her guitar playing and tunings are pretty unique because of the way she had to adapt to playing with it as a polio survivor.
 
Joe Mac said:
I think with Joni a lot of it is that she isn’t just telling a story. Whilst she is doing that, and is one of the very best at it to my mind, she also uses language in a very interesting way. It can feel to me that she’s painting pictures and setting scenes with words. Also her guitar playing and tunings are pretty unique because of the way she had to adapt to playing with it as a polio survivor.
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I did not know that she was a polio survivor. I’ll have to pay more attention to her playing.

Yea, she does paint a picture. Her songs are more like novels. They lack the repetition required by typical pop song writing.
 
Dtknuckles said:
I did not know that she was a polio survivor. I’ll have to pay more attention to her playing.

Yea, she does paint a picture. Her songs are more like novels. They lack the repetition required by typical pop song writing.
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And I think that’s deliberate. She never wanted to be just another pop star or, as people tried to pigeon hole her earlier in career, folk singer singer writer. She was more stubborn and wanted to say things, say things in a unique voice, and to be an artist and to follow her muse wherever it took her. I think the fact that she described herself as a painter who made music also sort of bleeds into that.
 
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