Hot Take/ Musical Confession Thread!

TenderLovingKiller® said:
I feel sorry about how it ended for the dude but this take kinda feels like some fanciful revisionist myth-making about a decent rapper that was, for all intent and purposes a nice and well loved guy.
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This. Except substitute “rapper” and you have my sentiments about Jeff Buckley. Heck, less albums and still getting sour milk from that cow.
 
dhodo said:
Do you think he made a classic album? I feel like I could agree if you said modern pop rapper but to me that just means he wins over posty, which is a low bar. I'm not as experienced with the Lils.
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TenderLovingKiller® said:
Scorching!

You are must not be familiar with the works of: Mike D, AD-Rock, MCA, El-P, Slug and Aesop Rock then (I blame the public school system). Also, though he ain’t my favorite Eminem in his prime could rap circles around Mac. I feel sorry about how it ended for the dude but this take kinda feels like some fanciful revisionist myth-making about a decent rapper that was, for all intent and purposes a nice and well loved guy.
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I am familiar with them and there are absolutely more talented lyricists and bar for rappers than Mac but I think as a package deal Mac puts forth a strong case and incredibly impressive discography to stand above the rest as all around impressive. It’s like another hot take of mine, I believe Black Thought is the greatest rapper on earth bar for bar but I think Kendrick Lamar is the goat of hip hop. Him and Mac are similar in that they are both incredibly well rounded as arrangers, lyricists and creatives and bolster nearly flawless discographies. That last part will catch a lot of flack especially if you haven’t kept up with Mac but over his career he put over over 10 studio projects that each improved upon the last, he never found himself locked into a box and continued to innovate on his sound. The only other white rapper that reached his level of cultural relevancy (not counting Vanilla Ice) was Eminem, who let’s face it, he’s a fantastic lyricist but outside of that his music was very shticky and his discography gets pretty blah pretty quickly. As for a classic album from Mac I would certainly cite Faces as his magnum opus and I think it’s generally well regarded as an underground classic. I think a lot of people write off Mac because they remember him from KIDS or Blue Slide Park and Ariana Grande features but when you dive into his discography there is a LOT of incredibly powerful music that goes above and beyond what people expect.

For those interested in deep diving, check the following projects.

FACES
Swimming
GOOD AM
Macadelic
Watching Movies With The Sound Off
Delusional Thomas
Devine Femine
 
Musical Confession: I spent 100% of my available music listening time today listening to the soundtrack for musicals. I listened to the entire CATS soundtrack as well as the entire soundtrack for Nine. And I am not ashamed.

Come at me, fam!
 
ghostdorado said:
I am familiar with them and there are absolutely more talented lyricists and bar for rappers than Mac but I think as a package deal Mac puts forth a strong case and incredibly impressive discography to stand above the rest as all around impressive. It’s like another hot take of mine, I believe Black Thought is the greatest rapper on earth bar for bar but I think Kendrick Lamar is the goat of hip hop. Him and Mac are similar in that they are both incredibly well rounded as arrangers, lyricists and creatives and bolster nearly flawless discographies. That last part will catch a lot of flack especially if you haven’t kept up with Mac but over his career he put over over 10 studio projects that each improved upon the last, he never found himself locked into a box and continued to innovate on his sound. The only other white rapper that reached his level of cultural relevancy (not counting Vanilla Ice) was Eminem, who let’s face it, he’s a fantastic lyricist but outside of that his music was very shticky and his discography gets pretty blah pretty quickly. As for a classic album from Mac I would certainly cite Faces as his magnum opus and I think it’s generally well regarded as an underground classic. I think a lot of people write off Mac because they remember him from KIDS or Blue Slide Park and Ariana Grande features but when you dive into his discography there is a LOT of incredibly powerful music that goes above and beyond what people expect.

For those interested in deep diving, check the following projects.

FACES
Swimming
GOOD AM
Macadelic
Watching Movies With The Sound Off
Delusional Thomas
Devine Femine
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This has got to be parody, right?
 
ghostdorado said:
Have you spent time with his music?
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Enough to know he is utter trash and not to waste any time with him. Like, I honestly can't tell if you're trolling now or not as this is the Hot Take thread but .. I surround myself with hip-hop heads and we universally agree he is trash. This idea that he is anywhere near a 'top rapper' or anything is so ridiculous, that's why I'm like 98% sure you're just trolling at this point. Nobody with any knowledge, or context of hip-hop history could possibly think this dude was good.

He's a rich kid from PA who used his money to buy a rap career and you bought into it. Shame on you. Next you're going to tell me that Asher Roth is one of the best lyricists / arrangers / composers too, right?
 
I like Mac.

I think this is great:



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I was never a fan of Mac either. I think his sudden high esteem came from him passing unexpectedly at a young age. That happens all the time. Same with xxxtenatacion (God that's a fucking dumb name...) I fully remember people thinking he was trash before he died and then he died and suddenly he was a " real talent that had so much potential"
 
Hot take: Cardi B is over.

She made one great album and a few singles when she felt she had something to prove.
She did.
And everything since her album came out (singles, collaborations) has been phoned in or half-baked at best.
 
MadLucas said:
Hot take: Cardi B is over.

She made one great album and a few singles when she felt she had something to prove.
She did.
And everything since her album came out (singles, collaborations) has been phoned in or half-baked at best.
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Cardi B also seems incapable of acting like an adult in public situations and that's turned alot of people off of her
 
sorcerer said:
Mac dying got a lot of people to finally listen to him. I remember people clowning how no one was listening to his last album cause it came out on the same day that "Astroworld" did (this was pre-death.)
He's definitely got a fanbase though. Over a million likes on this vid.



As for xxxtentacion, a lot of people were saying he was trash but that he still had potential just given all of the different styles he'd play with.
Also "potential" as in he died like a year or two after his biggest controversy and people believed he was on track to become a way better person before being shot over his chain.

I find a lot of his songs really interesting, and I think if he had more time on this planet he could've put out a project that's fully realized and polished. As for now, we're just stuck with demos that his labels keep beating out of his corpse.
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That wasn't the worst thing I've ever heard but nothing about that song interests me. It's perfectly mehdiocre.. and speaks volumes if that's supposed to show how good Mac could be.
 
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