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kafunis said:
Lots of CD's don't sound great as they are compressed to the shithouse, K W's stuff doesn't sound that great to me , not a lot of dynamic's even on the Album, but this one sounds good on CD, I've got the vinyl but it doesn't sound great on vinyl, but I listen to the cd more . For what it's worth, and it is a lovely album .And no flipping so you can put it on and get stuck in !!
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Yeah what is with the KW albums? I have The Eipic and Heaven and Earth, both of them sound pretty compressed and flat on CD and vinyl. You'd think his sound would lend itself to big dynamics but nope, it just comes off kind of boring.
 
botherly said:
Yeah what is with the KW albums? I have The Eipic and Heaven and Earth, both of them sound pretty compressed and flat on CD and vinyl. You'd think his sound would lend itself to big dynamics but nope, it just comes off kind of boring.
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I think they are one of the most discussed release I own on discogs : https://www.discogs.com/release/7383499-The-Epic/reviews#c1185342

I found them pretty good but granted, not exceptional either, on my previous system, I should try them with the new one.
 
TCell said:
Highly questionable Top 20 list for Miles Davis from today's Guardian. I agree with the Top 3, but four 80s albums?!? Those need to be replaced with more from the 2nd Quintet and Agharta. Also, IMO Miles Smiles should be in the Top 5.
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Dark Star Boogie said:
Man, no Miles Smiles at all?
They really should just ditch all the 80’s albums, but they’re missing more than 4 essential Miles albums.
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Hot take: Miles Smiles is overrated.



There. I said it.


Don't get me wrong, I love that album, and I'm a sucker for any recording with Williams, Hancock, Shorter and Carter on it, but I don't think that record is neither the most original, nor important or defining that band recorded. Again, I hold that album in very high regard, but I don't think it is THE Miles 60's record.
 
agutierrezb said:
Hot take: Miles Smiles is overrated.



There. I said it.


Don't get me wrong, I love that album, and I'm a sucker for any recording with Williams, Hancock, Shorter and Carter on it, but I don't think that record is neither the most original, nor important or defining that band recorded. Again, I hold that album in very high regard, but I don't think it is THE Miles 60's record.
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What’s your choice?
 
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Has anyone else here bought John Coltrane - Ballads from the Verve Vital Vinyl series? I ordered one online and because of a mistake from the online retailer I received two copies. Both had a Verve Vital Vinyl on the shrink-wrap. However, after opening them, both appear to be this version (judging from the jacket and the label): John Coltrane Quartet* - Ballads

Has Verve recycled older reissues for this series or were the stickers just put on the wrong records?

Just as a side note, these seem to have been pressed at United (A "u" inside a circle in the deadwax) and both are badly off-centre, one worse then the other.
 
Speedracer said:
Has anyone else here bought John Coltrane - Ballads from the Verve Vital Vinyl series? I ordered one online and because of a mistake from the online retailer I received two copies. Both had a Verve Vital Vinyl on the shrink-wrap. However, after opening them, both appear to be this version (judging from the jacket and the label): John Coltrane Quartet* - Ballads

Has Verve recycled older reissues for this series or were the stickers just put on the wrong records?

Just as a side note, these seem to have been pressed at United (A "u" inside a circle in the deadwax) and both are badly off-centre, one worse then the other.
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I don't believe Ballads was a Vital Vinyl reissue. In press releases, it makes it seem like it because it lists titles as also recently released, but the Vital Vinyl series itself is very definite. It always struck me as slightly shady that they try to tack these on to the press releases, but actually putting the sticker on them is seriously deceptive. The mastering and pressing are completely different from the rest of the series. It seems to me they may have had these laying around from a previous effort, or maybe saw what was happening with BN80 and Tone Poet and decided to up their game afterwards but still wanted to be able to sell this crap too.
 
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johnpisme said:
I don't believe Ballads was a Vital Vinyl reissue. In press releases, it makes it seem like it because it lists titles as also recently released, but the Vital Vinyl series itself is very definite. It always struck me as slightly shady that they try to tack these on to the press releases, but actually putting the sticker on them is seriously deceptive. The mastering and pressing are completely different from the rest of the series. It seems to me they may have had these laying around from a previous effort, or maybe saw what was happening with BN80 and Tone Poet and decided to up their game afterwards but still wanted to be able to sell this crap too.
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Ahh okay I see, that would make sense. I looked up the press release and Ballads was listed under the section "Vital Vinyl titles already available". So I suppose they are just slapping the sticker on old stock that is still lying around. Very deceptive indeed, although I have to say that the mastering is not the problem. The master seems to date back to a 1995 version, which supposedly is remastered from the original analog recordings. Now whether this is actually AAA or ADA, I don't know for sure. It has "mastered by Capitol" in the deadwax and I have read that Capitol supposedly has a digital element somewhere in their mastering chain, preventing them from doing true AAA. However, I have no idea how far that information dates back. From what I can gather on Discogs and the Hoffman forums, most Impulse reissues mastered by capitol between 1995 and 2000 sound pretty darn good and are good cheap alternatives for some expensive pressings.

The real problem is the pressing quality. It's so badly off-centre I get sea-sick watching the needle sway back and forth.
 
doncornelius said:
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Is this an official Vital Vinyl release? Why did I get this when I already have the VMP version?
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I have my doubts about any of them that weren't specifically listed as coming out in the press release. I suspect they just acted like the ones that came out recently before that were also included to help them sell. Even discogs doesn't have any of these under the Vital Vinyl releases. I would guess the quality varies. How does that one sound?
 
Speedracer said:
Ahh okay I see, that would make sense. I looked up the press release and Ballads was listed under the section "Vital Vinyl titles already available". So I suppose they are just slapping the sticker on old stock that is still lying around. Very deceptive indeed, although I have to say that the mastering is not the problem. The master seems to date back to a 1995 version, which supposedly is remastered from the original analog recordings. Now whether this is actually AAA or ADA, I don't know for sure. It has "mastered by Capitol" in the deadwax and I have read that Capitol supposedly has a digital element somewhere in their mastering chain, preventing them from doing true AAA. However, I have no idea how far that information dates back. From what I can gather on Discogs and the Hoffman forums, most Impulse reissues mastered by capitol between 1995 and 2000 sound pretty darn good and are good cheap alternatives for some expensive pressings.

The real problem is the pressing quality. It's so badly off-centre I get sea-sick watching the needle sway back and forth.
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Hopefully you can return it and get sent a better pressing? The Vital Vinyl series is reportedly mastered by Kevin Reeves from UMG, cut at Capital, and pressed by GZ.
 
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