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Rahawk2 said:
All kidding aside there are a lot of Juggalos on my block, and they are all pretty down to earth ,have pretty good jobs and are pretty normal except for when they wild out and put on the clown make up.
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Right on, Not my cup of tea but they used to hold “The Gathering” at a small park on the IL/KY border (I think it was called Caver or Cave in the Rock) anyways A.V. Club used to send someone down to it to cover it every year and those articles were amazing, they didn’t make fun just kind of covered it straight it was like a modern National Geographic covering an exotic culture except with way more drugs, clown makeup and Faygo.
 
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TenderLovingKiller® said:
Right on, Not my cup of tea but they used to hold “The Gathering” at a small park on the IL/KY border (I think it was called Caver or Cave in the Rock) anyways A.V. Club used to send someone down to it to cover it every year and those articles were amazing, they didn’t make fun just kind of covered it straight it was like a modern National Geographic covering an exotic story except with way more drugs, clown makeup and Faygo.
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It's funny you say that because I've hung out with them many times, like I said there are a bunch on my block, and in the back of my mid I did feel a bit like the dude that lived with the bears for a couple years. I had to stop hanging out with them though because I have a six year old and every other word they use is a curse word even in a setting where cursing really isn't necessary lol. Like Sesame Place or ordering at Olive Garden,
 
Rahawk2 said:
Wait do people actually think that all baby boomers are rich and privileged?
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I haven't seen anyone say something like that. If you're responding to my post, I was just using the two extremes of class to illustrate my point. It is true that the white boomer generation as a whole is rich and privileged relative to other generations though.
 
Indymisanthrope said:
If you accept the premise that either of these is “wrong” in an ethical sense (irrespective of factual right/wrong accuracy), which I don’t think I do.

What are the negative characteristics that are being misattributed to the older generation with this term? That they’re more susceptible to misinformation, that they’re more financially stable, and that they’re therefore less likely to support the reforms that younger generations want. That this leads them to say/do some foolish things? What’s the harm being done? Who has been marginalized or suffered because of it in any material way? How have any power dynamics in our society shifted with its use? None at all. That’s why the punch up/down thing matters. Baby boomers can gatekeep the entire economy; millennials can write mean tweets. Context is important unless we’re going to start dealing in moral absolutes.
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My argument has been that the term “boomer” is derogatory and that it is therefore distasteful to use. The fact that you generalize an entire generation into what are problematic stereotypes in an argument about whether or not it is right to call them a derisive term shows a very clear bias.

My entire point is that younger generations have decided to use the term “boomer” to belittle that generation just as other generations have used the term “millennial” to show contempt for the younger generation.
 
dhodo said:
I haven't seen anyone say something like that. If you're responding to my post, I was just using the two extremes of class to illustrate my point. It is true that the white boomer generation as a whole is rich and privileged relative to other generations though.
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I honestly can’t. I’m gonna leave the echo chamber for a bit. I’ve read this post a bunch and I can’t believe that this is the response someone would give.
 
Lee Newman said:
I honestly can’t. I’m gonna leave the echo chamber for a bit. I’ve read this post a bunch and I can’t believe that this is the response someone would give.
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Yeah I'm with you I should go disappear back to the music threads because I have no response to that.
 
Rahawk2 said:
Yeah I'm with you I should go disappear back to the music threads because I have no response to that.
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All I said was that, no, nobody seems to think that in here but the generation is looked at that way as a whole because as a whole generation, they do have more wealth and some of them were provided a lot of opportunities that more recent generations haven't necessarily had. I'm very confused about why that upset you guys, I didn't know that was a controversial statement. Of course I don't think the generalization is true for everyone. My parents and their families are baby boomers.
 
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Only giving an angry face bc I respect memes too much.

I could get behind the putting in the clown meme until it ended in assumed , yet generalization. No plandemic for the ending ? No photoshop of the lady in the very hot topic video ?! Sorry. Please respect my choice.

It’s such a great art platform we must protect it at all coats. Support the arts !
 
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dhodo said:
All I said was that, no, nobody seems to think that in here but the generation is looked at that way as a whole because as a whole generation, they do have more wealth and some of them were provided a lot of opportunities that more recent generations haven't necessarily had. I'm very confused about why that upset you guys, I didn't know that was a controversial statement. Of course I don't think the generalization is true for everyone. My parents and their families are baby boomers.
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I'm not upset just staying away from the politics, I'll just say this over one-third of senior households has no money left over each month or are in debt after meeting essential expenses, the boomers I know have enough money to keep the electricity on on it their small apartments and drink tap water and eat tuna on white bread, I guess they don't realize how rich and privileged they are.
 
Rahawk2 said:
I'm not upset just staying away from the politics, I'll just say this over one-third of senior households has no money left over each month or are in debt after meeting essential expenses, the boomers I know have enough money to keep the electricity on on it their small apartments and drink tap water and eat tuna on white bread, I guess they don't realize how rich and privileged they are.
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I'm not sure why you are acting like I said all baby boomers are rich and privileged. The fact that boomers account for a majority of wealth is all I was referring to. I also know that that wealth is not distributed remotely evenly in that generation. I didn't say or think anything idiotic like "literally every baby boomer is rich and was afforded more privilege than literally every other person ever born in the world." I'm not sure why that seems to be what you got from what I said, but it wasn't my intent.

I also didn't say anything judgmental or deragatory about baby boomers. I only defended someone using the term boomer in a joke as ok with me because I see it as punching up and/or harmless.
 
Indymisanthrope said:
If you accept the premise that either of these is “wrong” in an ethical sense (irrespective of factual right/wrong accuracy), which I don’t think I do.

What are the negative characteristics that are being misattributed to the older generation with this term? That they’re more susceptible to misinformation, that they’re more financially stable, and that they’re therefore less likely to support the reforms that younger generations want. That this leads them to say/do some foolish things? What’s the harm being done? Who has been marginalized or suffered because of it in any material way? How have any power dynamics in our society shifted with its use? None at all. That’s why the punch up/down thing matters. Baby boomers can gatekeep the entire economy; millennials can write mean tweets. Context is important unless we’re going to start dealing in moral absolutes.
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Indymisanthrope said:
Problematic stereotypes? I mentioned some negative characteristics which might be MISattributed to individuals but which are ultimately not harmful. If I said all boomers are racist? Bad. If I said they’re all greedy or stupid? Bad. Still not harmful to them, but wrong and unhelpful. But saying they largely represent a period of greater social mobility, sustained prosperity, and also that they have a well-documented difficulty with separating fact from fiction on the internet? That’s not contempt, it’s a privilege check and a reminder that age =/= wisdom.

Of *course* #notallboomers. It goes without saying. Just like #notallmen and #notallwhitepeople. It’s just a defense for a population that doesn’t really need one. I say all of that as someone who isn’t in the habit of using the word in that manner; I think we can all find it to be different levels of helpful/funny/descriptive/accurate/tasteful without it being something that is morally objectionable.
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Nothing to add, just think people should read these again.

In other news, I texted my mom (65, retired) about Plandemic and she was like, oh yeah I watched that and googled that woman, total crap. So not all Boomers. I felt very proud of her.
 
Perhaps my perspective is different because for all of my adult life older people have said things that are sweeping negative assumptions about Millennials that aren't based on fact and blamed Millennials for all of the problems they have faced. Never in any of those comments was I offended by being referred to as a Millennial or even a snowflake, nor did I think either approached a slur at any point. To me, the only thing that was offensive was the substance and intent of the statements, IF I found them remotely offensive that is.
 
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