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bdrummond said:
I mean, the amount of worship they put upon Trump is automatically disqualifying.
Just read the goddamn book people, for fucks sake.
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I find it sadly ironic that the same people who were complaining/whining about the "cult of Obama" from 2008-2016 went out and got themselves their own cult hero and became the very thing they used to decry. The lack of self-awareness of their hypocrisy is amazing but not unexpected.
 
ranbalam said:
I almost got beat up by a father-son Marine duo at a brewery one evening that said they wanted to hear my thoughts on Jesus. I warned them they wouldn't like my thoughts but they pressed on. I said that Jesus would hate this country, and capitalism, and all these zealots doing stuff in his name. I also threw in that he would probably look more like Bin Laden than Chuck Norris. Needless to say they got aggressive and we ended the discussion. (I don't think they would actually have roughed me up, but they were definitely angry) This was during Trump's last term btw...not that it matters.
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How dare you be so correct, sir.
 
mdmost said:
But it's all for show. That's where Trump is a masterclass in manipulating both the media and the disinterested general public. These ICE raids were happening under Biden, just not in schools and churches. They weren't broadcasted on the news and social media. They happened under Obama. Obama deported more undocumented than any US President. But they can't give credit to Obama for that because it goes against their worldview. Yeah, he's cutting "wasteful woke programs" but he's spending 800K per flight to send people back on military aircrafts than on commercial flights like before which cost a fraction of that. It's all for show and a willing public will eat it up until the means of production start grinding to a halt, produce is harder or much more expensive to get, poultry and pork is even more expensive, along with all the other products that will rise. He is a chaos agent. That's why they voted for him. It won't matter to them until it affects them. And I'm not talking MAGA. I'm talking the person who may have voted before for Biden or Obama or not voted at all and decided he was the best option in November. MAGA is gone. There is no getting them back.
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This. The colombian president did not complain about the deportation flight per se ( there where a couple a week to colombia since the obama years) but because of people being shackled and bound and being treated like animals aboard the cargo bays of military transport.
 
bdrummond said:
Yup, and the establishment will slap them down every goddamn time because they represent giving power to...I don't know...the electorate?

Western politicians have become way too comfortable not dealing with armed revolutions.
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I chuckled when Pelosi told Biden he should step down because he needs to pass the baton to another generation. Do the same for someone in your district and get the hell out of AOC's way.
 
mdmost said:
I chuckled when Pelosi told Biden he should step down because he needs to pass the baton to another generation. Do the same for someone in your district and get the hell out of AOC's way.
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No, see what she meant was they need to pass the baton for someone who DOESN'T think that politicians and their families shouldn't be able to buy and sell stocks with inside information.

It's an important distinction.
 
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