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dbarila said:
I don't defend Fox News often...bit their website has a big banner that says President Elect Joe Biden". Now individual commentators on the network...that might be a different story.
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I don’t pay attention at all to Fox News, but aren’t their actual journalists reporting actual real news pretty respected for the most part? Obviously the entertainment part and personalities are straight bullshit.
 
Trump’s unwillingness to except the results could damage the GOP’s potential to hold on to the GA Senate seats in the upcoming special elections. Trump only cares about himself and is sad that he lost. The GOP has become the party of Trump and if they think the elections are rife with fraud they may decide what’s the point in voting in the Special Election. Meanwhile the Dems are hammering the point about their $15 national minimum wage and healthcare. I have no clue really what will happen but if GOP voters with no faith in institutional elections could really bite them in the ass.
 
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Ginormousthumbs said:
How worried should we be about Trump trying to get this to the Supreme Court and have the election results tossed out to have another election?
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0%

There may be some ballots that get tossed, but not enough to change the result.

Biden will win with 306 EC votes....same as Trump beat Hillary with, which he called a landslide. Biden will have won with a overwhelming popular vote margin, too. 5-6 million once all votes in California, Illinois, and New York are counted.

And that is truly a landslide.

Trump will be the first to ever lose the popular vote twice.
 
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As of this morning, Trump is still refusing to concede.

He plans to ramp up his legal challenges today. He continues to spread rhetoric of widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen.

Giuliana said that they know for sure the election was stolen in 3 or 4 states, and possible up to 10.

Chris Christie says if there is evidence of voter fraud, show us what it is. Otherwise condede.

In PA, election officials said they received death threats for counting votes.

Joe Biden is already working on trying to Unite America and win over the 70 Million people who voted for Trump. But Trump's rhetoric is resonating which his base further dividing us. We are still heading in the wrong direction becoming more divided. My side, your side. Adversaries.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
As of this morning, Trump is still refusing to concede.

He plans to ramp up his legal challenges today. He continues to spread rhetoric of widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen.

Giuliana said that they know for sure the election was stolen in 3 or 4 states, and possible up to 10.

Chris Christie says if there is evidence of voter fraud, show us what it is. Otherwise condede.

In PA, election officials said they received death threats for counting votes.

Joe Biden is already working on trying to Unite America and win over the 70 Million people who voted for Trump. But Trump's rhetoric is resonating which his base further dividing us. We are still heading in the wrong direction becoming more divided. My side, your side. Adversaries.
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I think we all knew that the time between the election being called and January was going to be unstable, Trump is being Trump, this isn't a big shock, he's been saying for months what he was going to do, he knew he was going to lose and the game plan was pushing it to the Supreme Court. What is really irritating to me is, where is the rest of the Republican party? You have what, 2, 3, voicing their opinions on this, the rest seemed to have swallowed their tongues or their phrasing is overly cautious "If there was voter fraud the President has the right to pursue it".......but evidence, proof, that's nowhere to be found, the building block to this whole thing is "because I said so"
 
AnthonyI said:
I think we all knew that the time between the election being called and January was going to be unstable, Trump is being Trump, this isn't a big shock, he's been saying for months what he was going to do, he knew he was going to lose and the game plan was pushing it to the Supreme Court. What is really irritating to me is, where is the rest of the Republican party? You have what, 2, 3, voicing their opinions on this, the rest seemed to have swallowed their tongues or their phrasing is overly cautious "If there was voter fraud the President has the right to pursue it".......but evidence, proof, that's nowhere to be found, the building block to this whole thing is "because I said so"
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Captainfog said:
This would be so very 2020

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He’s following this playbook to a tee. Makes me want to do some research to see how plausible it all really is.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
Trump’s unwillingness to except the results could damage the GOP’s potential to hold on to the GA Senate seats in the upcoming special elections. Trump only cares about himself and is sad that he lost. The GOP has become the party of Trump and if they think the elections are rife with fraud they may decide what’s the point in voting in the Special Election. Meanwhile the Dems are hammering the point about their $15 national minimum wage and healthcare. I have no clue really what will happen but it GOP voters with no faith in institutional elections could really bite them in the ass.
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Yes there is reason to hope that Trump declares war on the GOP for not fully supporting him and it keeps some R votes at home in Georgia. Also, if he keeps dragging this thing out (which he will) while the rest of the country has moved on, Perdue and Loeffler will be asked every day if they support Trump’s challenges to the election and that may be a very tricky needle to thread.

On the other side, the Dems should make these single-issue campaigns: do you or do you not want another round of COVID stimulus checks and enhanced unemployment benefits?
 
RenegadeMonster said:
As of this morning, Trump is still refusing to concede.

He plans to ramp up his legal challenges today. He continues to spread rhetoric of widespread voter fraud and that the election was stolen.

Giuliana said that they know for sure the election was stolen in 3 or 4 states, and possible up to 10.

Chris Christie says if there is evidence of voter fraud, show us what it is. Otherwise condede.

In PA, election officials said they received death threats for counting votes.

Joe Biden is already working on trying to Unite America and win over the 70 Million people who voted for Trump. But Trump's rhetoric is resonating which his base further dividing us. We are still heading in the wrong direction becoming more divided. My side, your side. Adversaries.
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Do Trump supporters know how almost impossible to coordinate an effort of fraud for tens of thousands of votes would be?
 
Space Wanderer said:
On the other side, the Dems should make these single-issue campaigns: do you or do you not want another round of COVID stimulus checks and enhanced unemployment benefits?
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I completely agree, but when you have a base that only needs to hear you say "It's the Dems fault" and nothing else, it's almost a lost cause. This only ends when he's removed from office, yep, removed. There isn't going to be a concession speech, he's going to ride this out for as long as he can in the hopes of a "stalemate" forcing the Supreme Court to step in.
 
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