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Twentytwo said:
This may work but I still don't like it chances passing in the Senate. It passed in the house with some bipartisan support so that is a start.

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The move could undermine Republican senators competing in the Georgia run-offs.
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The advantage is that the veto has to be overridden this week, since a new Congress is seated next week and thus the veto would stand if not overridden this week. It also would keep the GA senators in DC the last week of the campaign. Who knows if it will work, but I am glad to see Democrats in the Senate actually playing the procedural games to try to get something good done.
 
AnthonyI said:
Only a Trump led Republican party would sue it's own parties Vice President.............I thought I was reading the Onion when I first saw the story, lol.
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All I have got to say is wtf

"We continue to hold out hope that there is a federal judge who understands that the fraud that stole this election will mean the end of our republic, and this suit would insure that the Vice-President will only accept electors legitimately and legally elected," Gohmert said in a statement on Monday. "There must be an opportunity for a day in court when fraud was this prevalent."
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The so called fraud and stolen election is the end of our republic? :oops:
 
wokeupnew said:
If McConnell grants it a vote it'll be seen as it him allowing it to pass. Some "on the fence' GOPers may flip if that's the case. I don't think he's going to budge AT ALL with this.
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Seems like he might hang some of the stuff Trump wants but nobody else wants, like section 230, on there to doom it, IF he brings anything up for a vote. Then he can pretend it's the democrats fault again and that he is on Trump's side.
 
dhodo said:
Seems like he might hang some of the stuff Trump wants but nobody else wants, like section 230, on there to doom it, IF he brings anything up for a vote. Then he can pretend it's the democrats fault again and that he is on Trump's side.
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As long as a good number of people continue to vote against thier own interests we can expect nothing else. I mean McConnell gets re-elected by poor people who are too stupid to know any better. All they know is that democrats want to let babies be aborted, let gays get married and take thier guns away.

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Twentytwo said:
As long as a good number of people continue to vote against thier own interests we can expect nothing else. I mean McConnell gets re-elected by poor people who are too stupid to know any better. All they know is that democrats want to let babies be aborted, let gays get married and take thier guns away.

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Here is the full chart for what they know. A vote for either side means they stand for:

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Louie Gohmert is a tooth-swallowing, anti-Semitic, hate-crime denying, lying sack of shit.

his traitorous, wasteful, and repugnant shenanigans in regards to this election, all in support of a low-rent Caligula, are pathetic but not surprising.

I feel like I need to go door knocking in East Texas since these folks keep voting him in by a landslide. that pivot district needs to PIVOT.
 
Twentytwo said:
As long as a good number of people continue to vote against thier own interests we can expect nothing else. I mean McConnell gets re-elected by poor people who are too stupid to know any better. All they know is that democrats want to let babies be aborted, let gays get married and take thier guns away.

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As long as democrats continue peddling right-wing neolibs as the opposition in our state we can expect nothing else. McConnell gets re-elected by poor people who see no alternative or outreach among terrible democratic politicians. All they know is that neither party is really going to reach out to them, so they might as well stick with what they know.
 
Nearly a million people in KY did NOT vote McConnell. It's infuriating to me everytime an entire southern/red state gets written off as a bunch of hicks who don't know what's good for them based on the actions of their politicians. 95%+ of McGrath's funding came from out of state and she won her own primary by barely 7,000 votes. Nobody wanted her. As long as this bullshit continues and liberals keep trying to feed us slop and scolding us for spitting it out, the south is going to stay red. Try a different strategy.
 
ayayrawn said:
As long as democrats continue peddling right-wing neolibs as the opposition in our state we can expect nothing else. McConnell gets re-elected by poor people who see no alternative or outreach among terrible democratic politicians. All they know is that neither party is really going to reach out to them, so they might as well stick with what they know.
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I agree, but Booker wouldn't have won either so that isn't totally it. I mean democrats pretty much got smoked across the board this election.
 
Twentytwo said:
I agree, but Booker wouldn't have won either so that isn't totally it. I mean democrats pretty much got smoked across the board this election.
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I don't think so either, but I am 100% certain his strategy in appealing directly to Kentuckians would have been much more effective in the long term. He was doing face-to-face talks in places like Hazard and listening to people. Things like this won't change overnight, but strategies like that-LISTENING to people and hearing them and getting them excited-are going to be the key. Coming in front out state and gleefully announcing "I am also right wing, but better!" isn't going to win over anyone.
 
ayayrawn said:
I don't think so either, but I am 100% certain his strategy in appealing directly to Kentuckians would have been much more effective in the long term. He was doing face-to-face talks in places like Hazard and listening to people. Things like this won't change overnight, but strategies like that-LISTENING to people and hearing them and getting them excited-are going to be the key. Coming in front out state and gleefully announcing "I am also right wing, but better!" isn't going to win over anyone.
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I totally agree with that. Appealing to real people is the answer, not private events with mega donors. I think that is what got people excited about Bernie, but unfortunately we aren't there yet. As you said, hopefully we can keep driving the message home by meeting people where they are.
 
Twentytwo said:
www.cnn.com

McConnell moves to combine Trump asks in potential 'poison pill' for stimulus checks

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell introduced legislation Tuesday to combine two additional demands from President Donald Trump to an expansion of direct stimulus payments as part of the Covid-19 relief package, raising Democratic concern the pathway for expanded stimulus payments would soon...
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I think the Dems should go along with it still, Section 230 needs reform and for the most part States run elections the Dems should call their bluff.
 
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