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Dan price started up some nice comments on instagram / twitter threads yesterday with one of his posts.

His post was about how employers want to pay minimum wage for unskilled workers. But at the same time, also pay skilled workers (Those with a college degree and relevant information) near minimum wage as well calling the position "entry level" and complain about how "no one wants to work".

How can it be that both jobs that require no experience or education pay close to the same as jobs that require college education and experience and both be considered "entry level".

So many people chimed in saying that's them and that's how their job search is going. The bulk of the job s listed out there are listed as "entry level". But they want 5 or 10 years relevant experience and a college degree. Sure there are a lot of jobs out there where that's not the case, and people are moving out of jobs like these to the jobs that pay better. But there is a lot of garbage to sort through on your hunt for a job. And it's primarily these companies that require experience and degrees for "entry level jobs".

They say you have the opportunity to make a lot more growing with the company, but people are saying "bull shit".

I have seen posts like this:

I have a masters degree in architecture. I took a entry level job at a firm that had a masters degree and 5 years relevant experience listed as a requirement for an entry level job. The starting salary was $13.40/hr with the opportunity to make a lot more. One day I overheard my boss say they bill the clients $250/hr for my time, just think about that. Two years after starting the job they gave me my first raise, a measly 0.25/hr. I said goodbye.
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These type of "entry level" jobs have been the norm since around 2008 / the recession. And they have hit the generation the hardest who has the most student loan debt to date to pay off.

We are just now starting to see people fed up with the status quo and refusing to take these jobs. Hopefully this movement lasts and provides meaningful change.

But all way get are that we are the "entitlement generation" from the previous generations and CEOs. So I'm not holding my breath. They would also like to blame us for the increases in cost of living.
 
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Judge questions whether Jan. 6 rioters treated fairly compared to George Floyd rioters

A federal judge suggested that the Justice Department was being too hard on those who broke into the Capitol compared to the people arrested during anti-racism protests following George Floyd&#8217…
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WASHINGTON — Rejecting the recommendation of prosecutors, a federal judge sentenced a Jan. 6 rioter to probation on Friday and suggested that the Justice Department was being too hard on those who broke into the Capitol compared to the people arrested during anti-racism protests following George Floyd’s murder.

U.S. District Court Judge Trevor McFadden questioned why federal prosecutors had not brought more cases against those accused in 2020 summertime protests, reading out statistics on riot cases in the nation’s capital that were not prosecuted.

“I think the U.S. attorney would have more credibility if it was even-handed in its concern about riots and mobs in this city,” McFadden said during Danielle Doyle’s sentencing for entering the Capitol on Jan. 6 with a throng of other rioters. Prosecutors recommended two months of home confinement for Doyle, who is from Oklahoma.

The statements by McFadden, an appointee of former President Donald Trump, were a major departure from the other federal judges overseeing insurrection cases so far, despite other Trump appointees on the court assigned to the hundreds of cases. They have generally discussed seriousness of the crime and its unique place in American history – different from other violent free speech protests because it sought to disrupt the peaceful transition of power.

The Associated Press analyzed more than 300 criminal cases stemming from the protests incited by Floyd’s murder, showing that many leftist rioters had received substantial sentences, rebutting the argument that pro-Trump defendants were treated more harshly than Black Lives Matter protesters.

As McFadden sentenced Doyle, he said he thought she was “acting like all those looters and rioters last year. That’s because looters and rioters decided the law did not apply to them.”

Despite these concerns, McFadden said Doyle’s behavior was not excusable. He called it a “national embarrassment,” and again likened it to the police brutality protests following the death of George Floyd last year that made “us all feel less safe.”



Our criminal justice system at its best. I can't say that this new surprises me. Based on what I know from history and what BLM has called out, it does not surprise me at all that on average BLM protesters would get much harsher sentences than white nationalist storming the U.S. capital on Jan 6th.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
Dan price started up some nice comments on instagram / twitter threads yesterday with one of his posts.

His post was about how employers want to pay minimum wage for unskilled workers. But at the same time, also pay skilled workers (Those with a college degree and relevant information) near minimum wage as well calling the position "entry level" and complain about how "no one wants to work".

How can it be that both jobs that require no experience or education pay close to the same as jobs that require college education and experience and both be considered "entry level".

So many people chimed in saying that's them and that's how their job search is going. The bulk of the job s listed out there are listed as "entry level". But they want 5 or 10 years relevant experience and a college degree. Sure there are a lot of jobs out there where that's not the case, and people are moving out of jobs like these to the jobs that pay better. But there is a lot of garbage to sort through on your hunt for a job. And it's primarily these companies that require experience and degrees for "entry level jobs".

They say you have the opportunity to make a lot more growing with the company, but people are saying "bull shit".

I have seen posts like this:



These type of "entry level" jobs have been the norm since around 2008 / the recession. And they have hit the generation the hardest who has the most student loan debt to date to pay off.

We are just now starting to see people fed up with the status quo and refusing to take these jobs. Hopefully this movement lasts and provides meaningful change.

But all way get are that we are the "entitlement generation" from the previous generations and CEOs. So I'm not holding my breath. They would also like to blame us for the increases in cost of living.
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FWIW, my company bills for me exactly what I cost with all fringes, insurances, etc. +the typical reasonable percent markup we put on everything we do. Everything about that Architecture Firm sounds unscrupulous.
 
The Supreme Court's new term starts today.

I was listing to a summary of cases and what the potential outcomes could be on Apple News + this morning

And a few things I didn't know about came up. Most concerningly, this could be the term where the Supreme Court takes a more direct role in deciding regulations. They are expected to step in and veto regulations set by the federal regulators in charge of setting said regulation.

There are a couple different cases where this could happen this term.

One of them has to do with Medicare and prescription drugs. This case depending on how the court rules, could mean the end of free covid-19 tests and vaccinations through Medicare.

Another case signals the continued shift to pro-employer policies and the topic of discussion is overtime. The SCOTUS is expected to veto federal overtime qualifications, resulting in a vast number of people who will no longer qualify for overtime or would have any legal ground to sue their employer over not paying overtime.

Second Amendment rights are coming up as well, and the court is expected to hugely expand the definition of the second amendment rights. The case is against the State of NY, and has to do with conceal and carry. With the current conservative majority NY is expected to lose this case. The result would then set a presidence that all states must allow conceal and carry to everyone.

Lastly, we know abortion rights is coming up, and that Row v. Wade could fall.
 
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It just amazes me that a lot of boomers see no issues with this.

I have seen many comments regarding this story like:
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Boomers with market assets who were able to cash in on the inequality they were locking in place see no issues with this. They don't understand how people can't make money in the market, and we need to just stop drinking lattes. Except, there is an increasingly large amount of people who are tired of being exploited for no money (thus the Great Resignation).

Here's my new favorite article for today:

The experience of those who spoke to CNBC, and their view of the company’s management, in many ways matched that of the 21 current and former employees who published an essay about Blue Origin on Thursday, alleging a “toxic” work culture. Smith responded internally to the essay in a company-wide email that was obtained by CNBC, seeking to “reassure” the company and emphasize that there is “no tolerance for discrimination or harassment of any kind.”

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Turmoil at Bezos' Blue Origin: Talent exodus came after CEO's push for full return to the office

Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin is suffering from an elevated turnover rate, CNBC has learned, losing talent primarily in response to decisions made by CEO Bob Smith.
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I had to explain to my dad that the reason that people aren't working right now has a lot more to do with people not being able to find care for their children or elderly. I reminded him that the burden often falls on women for care-giving and that the US department of labor statistics show that men have returned to work, but women have not. I also pointed out that a CA study on employees found that fry cooks and other back of the house staff in restaurants was the most deadly job in CA in 2020, and cooks in general, had been hit the hardest by Covid illness and death. For many of these guys, they can find a better paying job that doesn't put them in as much risk. He had to walk back his whole "nobody wants to work" statement, as a financially speaking, working can often leave you with less money if you have to pay for any sort of care elder or child.

I do like how people are finally pointing out the "entry level" issue, because it plagued me as I was starting my career, and as anyone that has ever done wealth trajectories knows, what you are paid starting out makes a big difference in how financially fit you are later. That's a piece of the puzzle. People aren't cogs for a machine. They aren't gears in a wheel. They require a seat at the table when it comes to labor negotiation--it's been way too one sided for too long.
 
My company is moving in the direction of Entry Level only for the vast majority of non management positions the last couple years.

It is being pushed by our global holding company and shareholder quarterly results.

For non-management workers, promotions of anyone mid level or higher have been virtually non-existent over the last few years. Layoffs have been mostly of senior level non-management employees because of their "bloated salaries".

When talking to management about promotions, I'm always told it's not about being ready, checking off the boxes and being promoted. We can't promote everybody and be "top heavy", it's all about the businesses need for such a position. Whether it be through someone leaving or winning new business.

Yet time after time I see people leave in these higher positions, and when I express interest in them I'm told "that position no longer exists". They have chosen to eliminate the position and replace with 3 entry level people. Because the work we do "does not always require" a senior level person and that more people on the team will allow us to get more work done and reduce long hours and stress.

They are perfectly fine with management making 6 figures or getting promotions, but regular employees? They seem to be having a hard time justifying the need for regular employees to make 6 figures and are completely moving away from that model of staffing.

The only promotion I got in the last 5 years was to eliminate overtime. I actually made less after the promotion than I did with the lower salary and overtime. So I'm basically stuck one level above entry level right now.

During my job search during the recession I ran into this entry level garbage everywhere and pretty much the only jobs that brought me in for interviews. And jobs with better pay not listed as "entry level" often told me I was "overqualified" because of my bachelors degree and didn't want to give me a chance because they wouldn't be paying what a person with a bachelor's degree would expect and were worried I wouldn't stay around. They wanted employees for the long haul.

I was like, dude, you are paying a much more generous salary than all these other meatball companies who only post "entry level" and would hire me on the spot. Because they don't care about their employees or turnover. Only their bottom line.
 
As someone who has never facebooked or instagrammed I find it annoyingly ironic that the services going down makes what media I do consume full of them.
 
debianlinux said:
As someone who has never facebooked or instagrammed I find it annoyingly ironic that the services going down makes what media I do consume full of them.
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yes, but honestly if you're technically inclined, the reasons why it went down are hilarious
 
New Hampshire only has one TV Station, ABC. The rest of the Networks they get are out of Boston, so it's not uncommon we get all the New Hampshire political ads in the Boston Market.

This morning on the local news, there were repeated political attack ads against Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats "Socialist" agenda. New Hampshire leans Republican, but currently has two Democratic senators.

The purpose of the attack ad was to to tell your senator to vote NO against Nancy Pelosi's frivies socialist spending. It went on an on about the price tag, socialist agenda and increased taxes (which don't exist btw). It also heavily criticized tax breaks for people who buy electric vehicles, because the parts for the vehicles are manufactured in China.
 
The Democrats seem to be trying to do the impossible now. Shaming Mitch McConnell into doing "the right thing" when it comes to passing the budget.

Only problem is Mitch McConnell knows no shame and trying to shame him only fires up Trumps base and doesn't help the cause.

Currently the democrats only have 48 votes in the senate, 2 short of being able to pass the budget bill. They are trying to get some Republican support to prevent default.

However, Mitch McConnell says the Democrats hold the majority and have to go it alone like that is total normal politics. And that if they fail to pass the budget while having control of the senate that just shows that they are a total failure and not effective at getting stuff done.

Since when does controlling the majority mean and have an expectation that you have to pass all legislation "on your own" with the otherside not helping whatsoever.
 
I know this is the Dems can’t do F all thread at times, but I recently heard an analysis that even the passage of the half measures that are heading through Congress are quite an achievement considering where we were in the 80’s with Regan. None of the stuff that is happening during the Biden (most often not by his doing) administration would have even been touched during the Obama years.
 
Major changes to student loans this morning.

Nothing that helps me or millions of others with student loan forgiveness who are outside of the "non-profit" industry though.

Here's to hoping that they will tackle that next.
 
Worthy read.

www.nytimes.com

Joe Klein Explains How the History of Four Centuries Ago Still Shapes American Culture and Politics

David Hackett Fischer’s “Albion’s Seed,” published in 1989, describes today’s United States with stunning prescience.
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Some of the assertions are a bit simplistic but the framing of some of the dominant cultural principles of America is helpful when asking the question "how did we get here?" but it also asserts that people settled in certain areas by choice which is at least not true in the case of the Scots-Irish who were bamboozled into Appalachian land that was farmable. It also ignores the role of our econmic system in breeding distrust... still well worth the 5 min read.
 
jaycee said:
Worthy read.

www.nytimes.com

Joe Klein Explains How the History of Four Centuries Ago Still Shapes American Culture and Politics

David Hackett Fischer’s “Albion’s Seed,” published in 1989, describes today’s United States with stunning prescience.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Some of the assertions are a bit simplistic but the framing of some of the dominant cultural principles of America is helpful when asking the question "how did we get here?" but it also asserts that people settled in certain areas by choice which is at least not true in the case of the Scots-Irish who were bamboozled into Appalachian land that was farmable. It also ignores the role of our econmic system in breeding distrust... still well worth the 5 min read.
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Paywalled, but I was able to find most of the articles text here: Joe Klein Explains How the History of Four Centuries Ago Still Shapes American Culture and Politics
 
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