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Bull Shannon said:
The best part is if you point out the only (or most prominent) descriptor of these "suspicious characters" is always their race or signifiers which place them outside the "in class" of the community, everyone will close ranks and say you're the one who made it about race or class.
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I live in a very red county / township. Whenever I see a car pulled over by a cop, I always look to see what the driver looks like. 98 out 100 times, it's a person of color. It makes me sad and sick.
 
mdmost said:
One of the first responses to Newtown was people rushing out to buy AR-15s since they felt Obama was about to ban them. It wasn't oh my God we really should take a look at how easy these weapons that can destroy our children are to get. It was how does this affect me. I remember cutting off a friend from high school whose response to this was exactly that. He didn't care that families and a community were forever affected by the violence. He only cared that his right to own a weapon he didn't need would be "infringed".

This is why I sadly feel nothing will ever change our gun nut culture. We're a violent nation by birthright. We have a I gotta get mine and I'll destroy you if you try to take it mentality. We don't care how many children have to die, why won't give an inch on our guns. They're not our kids.
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This was my step father. He was never into guns really, but rushed out to by assault rifles before MA banned them after Newtown. After MA banned them gun owners were supposed to surrender them to the proper authorities. My step father never did, he keeps them in a gun safe. I'm pretty sure it's a felony to have those types of weapons in MA but what can you do. He's not in the wrong according to him, MA is and has gone to far.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
This was my step father. He was never into guns really, but rushed out to by assault rifles before MA banned them after Newtown. After MA banned them gun owners were supposed to surrender them to the proper authorities. My step father never did, he keeps them in a gun safe. I'm pretty sure it's a felony to have those types of weapons in MA but what can you do. He's not in the wrong according to him, MA is and has gone to far.
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I mean, King George could just come in the front door and start pushing him around.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
This was my step father. He was never into guns really, but rushed out to by assault rifles before MA banned them after Newtown. After MA banned them gun owners were supposed to surrender them to the proper authorities. My step father never did, he keeps them in a gun safe. I'm pretty sure it's a felony to have those types of weapons in MA but what can you do. He's not in the wrong according to him, MA is and has gone to far.
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My dad is a gun nut. Just this last weekend he told me he had about $50k worth of guns, but he can’t shoot them any more because he has poor control of his hands. He asked me if I wanted any of them, and said “no thank you”.

I heard a stat coming in to work today that 70% of households do not have a gun, and something like 6% of Americans own the vast majority of them. My dad is one of the 6%.

I can see nothing good from me having a gun in my house. If an intruder comes in, the scenario is I’d have to get the gun out of my safe between when I know he’s in my house to the time we encounter each other. Even if I’m successful at that, I still would need the courage to use it. Much more likely that he would get it from me and use it against me.
 
Joe Mac said:
www.bbc.com

AI 'godfather' Geoffrey Hinton warns of dangers as he quits Google - BBC News

Artificial intelligence pioneer Geoffrey Hinton quits Google, saying he now regrets his work.
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AI chatbots are programmed by people. They can't be smarter than the fallacies in their coding. The problem is that people believe they are smarter and also infallible so when they start spitting whacky exports, we will have to believe it because "the chatbots are sooooo much smarter."

Sonicpharmacist said:
My dad is a gun nut. Just this last weekend he told me he had about $50k worth of guns, but he can’t shoot them any more because he has poor control of his hands. He asked me if I wanted any of them, and said “no thank you”.

I heard a stat coming in to work today that 70% of households do not have a gun, and something like 6% of Americans own the vast majority of them. My dad is one of the 6%.

I can see nothing good from me having a gun in my house. If an intruder comes in, the scenario is I’d have to get the gun out of my safe between when I know he’s in my house to the time we encounter each other. Even if I’m successful at that, I still would need the courage to use it. Much more likely that he would get it from me and use it against me.
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My ex has an R.O. against him and is currently in possession of 66 guns. He has repeatedly threatened to shoot himself and other people in the head. He has mental issues and addiction issues, both of which he chooses not to treat and instead blames other people for his problems. But sure, let him keep his gunz.
 
Why, on God's green Earth, did the main manager of the restaurant let them continue eating at the restaurant when those morons were verbally assaulting the employee? You kick them out and if they don't leave, you have cops come and remove them. Seriously, I'm not normally a person who enjoys when the internet goes after someone but I'm 100% for it with both the owner and these pieces of shit.
 
nolalady said:
AI chatbots are programmed by people. They can't be smarter than the fallacies in their coding. The problem is that people believe they are smarter and also infallible so when they start spitting whacky exports, we will have to believe it because "the chatbots are sooooo much smarter."
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I just read this stories of the post office scandal in the uk from 20 years ago, but even before ai the mentality of computers can´t be wrong it must be people did tremendous damage
www.theguardian.com

The innocent have paid a high price for the Post Office scandal. The guilty have not | Marina Hyde

It was the word of hundreds of Post Office workers against a faulty computer system. Guess who was believed? says Guardian columnist Marina Hyde
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
www.theguardian.com

Hundreds of lives ruined. Not a single person held to account. And still: silence on the Post Office scandal | Marina Hyde

Horrific detail piles on horrific detail as the inquiry rumbles on, says Guardian columnist Marina Hyde
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

I think the ending of the second article, that opens a broader picture is especially important:
Alas, the Post Office scandal has never truly seemed to stir the souls of those who regard a day spent online dragging this or that user as activism well spent. This feels symptomatic of a wider issue with what we classify as a campaigning victory these days. The key stages of the Post Office scandal have had far less coverage and garnered far fewer social media clicks than various comments by, say, Jeremy Clarkson or Gary Lineker. I appreciate it is far, far more difficult to “cancel” the iniquitous systems that led to the Post Office horror than it is to “cancel” someone in public life who you think has said something unacceptable – but it does very much need doing. The fault of systems is far, far more important than the fault of individuals, however much easier to yank down a single person it might be.

Getting caught up in endless cycles of “calling out” might work to punish individuals for their individual infractions, but it doesn’t change the bigger, more significant problems, and anyone who thinks it does is kidding themselves. Or allowing themselves to be kidded by people who have a vested interest in them not changing things. I know some politicians and some pundits bang on disparagingly about the “woke mind virus” or whatever, but I often think they must be secretly thrilled with the virtue games of recent times. It really couldn’t suit them more. How much better to have people sidelined into endless 24- or 48-hour online meltdowns, in which they are either pitted against one another litigating the narcissism of small differences – the dream! – or obsessing about one person’s transgressions and leaving iniquitous and dysfunctional systems free to sail on regardless.

Some of this is thought to be generational, and I have nothing but sympathy for the generations that come after mine, who have been shut out of so much of what they are entitled to and which most of those who criticise them simply took for granted. My theory is that if you give people absolutely no economic power, they will use what little power they have to lash out in one way or another, and it’s pretty hard to blame them for that. The disputed thing that some people call “cancel culture” is an example of it, and if capitalism’s elders and supposed betters really cared so much about stopping it, perhaps they’d think about giving younger people a stake in capitalism, instead of expecting them to abide by a set of rules of a game in which they are not even allowed to be player characters.

It might be nice to think it is, but I don’t believe that getting angry on Twitter particularly helps anyone other than Elon Musk, or that sitting in judgment on every passing infraction is anything other than a hiding to nothing. It is not effecting change – it is the illusion of effecting change. It is exactly the sort of looking-the-wrong-way that allowed the Post Office scandal to happen – and if we keep doing it, the people who really run things will keep on getting away with it.
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RenegadeMonster said:
Ron Desantis has accused Disney of "forum shopping" when Disney sued the new board last week. Basically, Disney filed its lawsuit in the Northern Florida District, which has a judge who was appointed by Obama and who has ruled unfavorably to Ron Desantis policies in the past.

Therefor, Meatball Ron is essentially accusing Disney of being shady and Cherry Picking a judge who will rule in their favor.

When did we get the point that the right doesn't see judges appointed by the left as fit / just. And we categorize judges as "Obama Judges" as a method of throwing mud at them.
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I mean, we can't have it both ways, we complain about Trump appointees to SCOTUS and other federal courts. The current SCOTUS is widely viewed and criticized for its right lean. I don't think there is a one of us on the left that thinks Judge Beer Bro should be on any court, much less SCOTUS.
 
folsom_lives said:
Sadly the same here. People posting about a car sitting on the street with someone in it they don't recognize. Suddenly it's suspicious...

Also when the auditor's office comes around to take photos of the front of properties, the number of these types of posts goes up like crazy.

"saw somebody out taking photos of my house. looked suspicious"

Also there is no follow up of, like hey did you walk out and ask this person what they were doing before you posted some fear mongering post on the internet echo-chamber?
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Do we really want the people that are posting this shit walking out? They're gonna do it with the gun, which is not going to result in whomever it is being in the best place to answer any questions.
 
Bull Shannon said:
The best part is if you point out the only (or most prominent) descriptor of these "suspicious characters" is always their race or signifiers which place them outside the "in class" of the community, everyone will close ranks and say you're the one who made it about race or class.
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The only reason I don't ignore Nextdoor is because sometimes there is useful information. But it has become some stupid shit worse than twitter or facebook in many ways.
 
mdmost said:
It's to the point in our neighborhood that I feel terribly for anyone who is African American or Hispanic who actually lives in the neighborhood. How they must be viewed with suspicion just for walking their dog or taking a piece of mail back to someone's box that got misdelivered. And you can guess the age of the people who typically post this stuff. Just move to the country or far flung exurb where scary minorities don't exist. What's funny is my friend in the suburb says his feed is the exact same. Black Lives Matter was the ultimate boogeyman after George Floyd. People were freaking out about a "Antifa brickpile" that was suspiciously left at the front of their neighborhood. Yeah, that was a construction crew that was building a brick wall around the entrance to the subdivision.
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I basically live in the middle of the woods and you guys are all describing my feed too.
 
Jan said:
I just read this stories of the post office scandal in the uk from 20 years ago, but even before ai the mentality of computers can´t be wrong it must be people did tremendous damage
www.theguardian.com

The innocent have paid a high price for the Post Office scandal. The guilty have not | Marina Hyde

It was the word of hundreds of Post Office workers against a faulty computer system. Guess who was believed? says Guardian columnist Marina Hyde
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
www.theguardian.com

Hundreds of lives ruined. Not a single person held to account. And still: silence on the Post Office scandal | Marina Hyde

Horrific detail piles on horrific detail as the inquiry rumbles on, says Guardian columnist Marina Hyde
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

I think the ending of the second article, that opens a broader picture is especially important:
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The no accountability for management is what really angers me.

Our system protects the capitalist class. They mess up, at worse they lose their job and get a massive severance package, but time and time again they continue to get bonuses and see their careers expand.

In the case of the post office, I can only imagine the faulty software was forced on them due to cost savings, likely through automating someone's job responsibilities.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Two children are discovered working at Kentucky McDonald's

Two 10 year olds were found to have been working long, unpaid shifts at a Louisville, Kentucky McDonald's. But they were just two of 305 minors who were found to be working illegally at McDonald's.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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And because these stores are franchises, McDonalds as a corporation can't be touched. Also, did you see the pathetic fines?

The franchise was fined $39,711 as a result of these violations.

Meanwhile, Archways Richmond, based in Walton — about 80 miles northeast of Louisville, employed 242 14- and 15-year-olds who worked either too early or too late in the day.

Investigators said the franchise sometimes had teenagers working over three hours on a school day.
It was ordered to pay $143,566 in penalties as a result.

And Bell Restaurant Group, based in Louisville with additional restaurants in Maryland and Indiana also had 14 and 15 years olds working too early or too late into the night, and longer than allowed under law.

Fifty-eight of those teenagers were not paid overtime wages, federal officials say.
It was ordered to pay $14,730 in back wages and liquidated damages to the workers.

These stores can easily make up these profits in no time. Until there are harsher penalties, this is going to keep happening.
 
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