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The vitriol on college campuses towards Jewish students and in some of the protests towards Jewish people is very troubling. With social media being so full of shit it's hard to know what is real or not but things like the NYPD telling Jewish people to stay out of Brooklyn due to protests and Jewish students having to lock themselves in a library due to anger is so alarming. I get why people are protesting but the immense anger in this worries me given our propensity to deal with our anger through firearms. It also feels like both sides have gotten super dug in with the help of outside actors who are also pretty invested in the fate of both Israel and Palestine.
 
mdmost said:
The vitriol on college campuses towards Jewish students and in some of the protests towards Jewish people is very troubling. With social media being so full of shit it's hard to know what is real or not but things like the NYPD telling Jewish people to stay out of Brooklyn due to protests and Jewish students having to lock themselves in a library due to anger is so alarming. I get why people are protesting but the immense anger in this worries me given our propensity to deal with our anger through firearms. It also feels like both sides have gotten super dug in with the help of outside actors who are also pretty invested in the fate of both Israel and Palestine.
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Israel has weaponized anti-Semitism to mean anyone critical or questioning of their behavior. It's extremely frustrating, because it conflates actual anti-Semitism (bad, obviously) with people being against the indiscriminate bombing/siege of Palestinian civilians (which I guarantee the vast majority of these protests in both Brooklyn and on college campuses are actually about).
 
ayayrawn said:
Israel has weaponized anti-Semitism to mean anyone critical or questioning of their behavior. It's extremely frustrating, because it conflates actual anti-Semitism (bad, obviously) with people being against the indiscriminate bombing/siege of Palestinian civilians (which I guarantee the vast majority of these protests in both Brooklyn and on college campuses are actually about).
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That may be true but there seems to be a lot anger at anything Israel in these protests. There doesn't appear to be a lot of middle ground. I think it's also fair to say you can be against what Israel does to the Palestinians and in Gaza but not feel Israel deserved the terrorism that was enacted upon innocent Israelis. It cuts both ways and I'm seeing a lot of anger by the left at Israel but not wholesale condemnation against Hamas and also some denial of the atrocities that Hamas committed or even justification. There is no justification for what Hamas has done. And there is a rise in anti-Semitism, just like there was in Islamophobia after 9/11. Again, Jewish students shouldn't be forced to secure themselves in a library to avoid potential violence. And I think there are outside actors (Iran/Russia) fanning the flames to sow even more discord in our country. Just like there are people on the Right who are taking up Israel's cause to further their own need to sow discord. There's also a segment of evangelicals that side with Israel and want war because they want the end times to occur.
 
mdmost said:
That may be true but there seems to be a lot anger at anything Israel in these protests. There doesn't appear to be a lot of middle ground. I think it's also fair to say you can be against what Israel does to the Palestinians and in Gaza but not feel Israel deserved the terrorism that was enacted upon innocent Israelis. It cuts both ways and I'm seeing a lot of anger by the left at Israel but not wholesale condemnation against Hamas and also some denial of the atrocities that Hamas committed or even justification. There is no justification for what Hamas has done. And there is a rise in anti-Semitism, just like there was in Islamophobia after 9/11. Again, Jewish students shouldn't be forced to secure themselves in a library to avoid potential violence. And I think there are outside actors (Iran/Russia) fanning the flames to sow even more discord in our country. Just like there are people on the Right who are taking up Israel's cause to further their own need to sow discord. There's also a segment of evangelicals that side with Israel and want war because they want the end times to occur.
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I think the reason most of the protests are centered on Israel instead of Hamas is because Hamas is a group of, at most, 25,000 people, while Israel is a rich, global superpower. So far 7,000 civilians have been killed in Gaza, including 3,000 kids, a million have lost their homes, and the rest are drinking dirty water and have no food. What Hamas did is horrible, no question, but now the Israeli government (who have propped up Hamas for years) are now exploiting this tragedy to turn Gaza into a "city of ruins," Netanyahu's own words.
 
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Yes, Netanyahu is the asshole here and has been for decades. My hope is he does not make it out of this as there is still anger of him seemingly allowing this to happen, both through his propping up of Hamas, his ignoring outside intelligence (shades of 9/11), and the destructive settlements policy. My fear is war tends to insulate the warmongers from removal.
 
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State Driver's License Laws Could Lead to Underdiagnosis of Dementia, According to New Research — TIME

In states where doctors are required to report dementia cases to the DMV, rates of diagnoses are lower than the national average.
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TL/DR Some states require medical professionals to report dementia diagnosis to the DMV. With the thread of state taking their ability (freedom) to drive with the diagnosis, seniors are avoiding medical care or talking about anything that could lead their doctor to suspect dementia as to not get such a diagnosis. This is resulting in us underestimating the number of people who have dementia.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
apple.news

State Driver's License Laws Could Lead to Underdiagnosis of Dementia, According to New Research — TIME

In states where doctors are required to report dementia cases to the DMV, rates of diagnoses are lower than the national average.
apple.news apple.news

TL/DR Some states require medical professionals to report dementia diagnosis to the DMV. With the thread of state taking their ability (freedom) to drive with the diagnosis, seniors are avoiding medical care or talking about anything that could lead their doctor to suspect dementia as to not get such a diagnosis. This is resulting in us underestimating the number of people who have dementia.
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no matter how many times we do it, we never really "get" the lesson of the cobra effect
 
RenegadeMonster said:
apple.news

State Driver's License Laws Could Lead to Underdiagnosis of Dementia, According to New Research — TIME

In states where doctors are required to report dementia cases to the DMV, rates of diagnoses are lower than the national average.
apple.news apple.news

TL/DR Some states require medical professionals to report dementia diagnosis to the DMV. With the thread of state taking their ability (freedom) to drive with the diagnosis, seniors are avoiding medical care or talking about anything that could lead their doctor to suspect dementia as to not get such a diagnosis. This is resulting in us underestimating the number of people who have dementia.
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that´s why it is important to keep the doctor office a safe space. We had some discussion in germany a couple of years ago when a pilot downed a passenger plane probably because of a mental disease and the discussion if his psychiatrit should have reported him to the airline, but experts overwhelmingly argued, that while such measures might be able to avoid single tragedies the toll from people not getting help because fearing conseuqences of a doctors or psychiatrist visit would be much graver.
 
Jan said:
that´s why it is important to keep the doctor office a safe space. We had some discussion in germany a couple of years ago when a pilot downed a passenger plane probably because of a mental disease and the discussion if his psychiatrit should have reported him to the airline, but experts overwhelmingly argued, that while such measures might be able to avoid single tragedies the toll from people not getting help because fearing conseuqences of a doctors or psychiatrist visit would be much graver.
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Funny that Germany is now less fascist than America.
 
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Boris Johnson favoured ‘older people accepting their fate’, Covid inquiry hears

Former PM had said his party felt virus was ‘nature’s way of dealing with old people’, and was not convinced NHS was overwhelmed
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No one is saying this in the US, but it was obvious that policy makers were thinking this. There was talk of savings because of people coming off of Medicare rosters. It’s really awful.
Jan said:
that´s why it is important to keep the doctor office a safe space. We had some discussion in germany a couple of years ago when a pilot downed a passenger plane probably because of a mental disease and the discussion if his psychiatrit should have reported him to the airline, but experts overwhelmingly argued, that while such measures might be able to avoid single tragedies the toll from people not getting help because fearing conseuqences of a doctors or psychiatrist visit would be much graver.
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My ex doesn’t want to get a mental health diagnosis because he is afraid it will get in the way of his ability to own guns. He absolutely needs a mental health diagnosis and treatment.
 
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