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After that came Napoleon… which wasn’t great either.
Louis Bonaparte is still one of those historical things that just makes my head explode. Kill the aristocrats, then vote one of them in, and he declares himself emperor and destroys the democracy they just fought for.

It would be like Americans having a revolution to beat Trump then voting in Ivana.
 
Louis Bonaparte is still one of those historical things that just makes my head explode. Kill the aristocrats, then vote one of them in, and he declares himself emperor and destroys the democracy they just fought for.

It would be like Americans having a revolution to beat Trump then voting in Ivana.

I think Robespierre and the Reign of Terror might have had more than a little to do with that!
 
Also Labour won’t get this free pass at the next election. It won’t be about beating the Tories around the head or competency. The situation will polarise, the uk is no less polarised than the rest of the western world. They’ll have to try to stabilise the economy in the first couple of years but if they don’t show ideas then and in the next cycle it will bounce right again. They’ll have to figure a way to go left without being Corbyn.
 
My very intelligent, well travelled, thoughtful, and well spoken friend says he has to vote trump because there was no war during trump yet we got Ukraine with Biden and with another Biden term we'd get full scale WW3. He says he hates trump the person but we can't have a soft commander in chief right now.
 
My very intelligent, well travelled, thoughtful, and well spoken friend says he has to vote trump because there was no war during trump yet we got Ukraine with Biden and with another Biden term we'd get full scale WW3. He says he hates trump the person but we can't have a soft commander in chief right now.
He can't be that intelligent if he thinks any of that is true.
 
My very intelligent, well travelled, thoughtful, and well spoken friend says he has to vote trump because there was no war during trump yet we got Ukraine with Biden and with another Biden term we'd get full scale WW3. He says he hates trump the person but we can't have a soft commander in chief right now.
Ask your friend how he thinks Ukraine will fair under Trump once Trump decides to no longer give them any form of aid? Then ask him if he feels Putin will stop at Ukraine.
 
I mean...
He's one of the very smartest people I know. He's quite Catholic and conservative. We rarely agree on things but always ended up respecting each other's positions and well founded arguments. This one though, I have to assume is some niche talking point?
You can be smart in some areas and dumb in others. But if he's a good logical thinker then this is more than likely a case of him trying to justify wanting what Trump will do, but knowing that some of those views would cost him friends since they're deplorable. It's a smart man's stupid.
 
I mean...
He's one of the very smartest people I know. He's quite Catholic and conservative. We rarely agree on things but always ended up respecting each other's positions and well founded arguments. This one though, I have to assume is some niche talking point?
Sometimes smart people will bend over backwards to stick their heads up their own asses.
 
He’s open about the first two being well up on his agenda. He was already trying to gut NATO last time around. I don’t see him having much of a problem getting them actioned if elected.
I agree he will want to get them done, but he very clearly implied that he could get whatever he meant done before taking office. I would assume any action by congress would be executive ordered/vetoed away by Biden up until Inauguration Day.
 
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