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And at every point of my life, Joe Biden supported Republican Lead initiatives. We must make sure he is no longer in politics…. Wtaf is going on?
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
Hard pass.
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In terms of party discipline, fuck yeah, democrats need it hard. democratic party gets ride or die on a galvanizing target like hillary but goes crazy eating itself apart over the slightest bullshit. Al Franken made a risque joke 15 years ago? get him outta here. meantime there's audio or video of every republican of note saying or doing just the most heinous shit -- public handjobs? venmo'ing teens for sex, actual fucking treason -- and the entire republican party just shrugs it off as hijinx or learning lessons or just straight up nuh-uh it's not illegal if i do it. the left definitely needs someone with a spine to play the heel and just be a public asshole all the time.
 
I’m hoping this COVID thing is play they’re using to get him out of the race. It’s a narrative that wraps everything up nicely.

Do we have any speculation or idea around who would be the front runner for the Democratic nominee? Gavin Newsom?
 
Ghost said:
I’m hoping this COVID thing is play they’re using to get him out of the race. It’s a narrative that wraps everything up nicely.

Do we have any speculation or idea around who would be the front runner for the Democratic nominee? Gavin Newsom?
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I’d say Harris. It would be very hard to get a completely new candidate in such a short timeframe. Also, I read something right after the debate that Harris would be able to access the campaign funds pretty much immediately but it would be much harder if it was someone who wasn’t on the original ticket. Same with electors.
 
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SnowmaNick said:
I’d say Harris. It would be very hard to get a completely new candidate in such a short timeframe. Also, I read something right after the debate that Harris would be able to access the campaign funds pretty much immediately but it would be much harder if it was someone who wasn’t on the original ticket. Same with electors.
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I’d like to believe that Democrats could rally around Harris, but I also remember what happened when she ran for President in 2020. 😕
 
Harris is really the only viable option with this short of a runway. Unless they can get Clooney or the Rock to run, I think it has to be her. Newsom or Whitmer should be VP. We’ll see what happens. They need to do whatever fast.
 
avecigrec said:
If it's anybody other than Harris, they're fucked and might as well run Hillary again.
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I am good with Harris but I genuinely believe there are numerous candidates that could still beat Trump. Ideally, In a short race if there is an enigmatic candidate that can capture the countries desire to be inspired over a 3 month period leading up to Election Day and before any backlash or negative branding can grab hold, I think they could win in a landslide. I am not sure who that is or if that person exists but if the Dems were to nominate that person I could see them really cleaning up.
 
Ghost said:
I feel like my generation just sees her as a robot and a cop and generally not a favorable candidate. Has she been a good VP?
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Meh. I don’t think it matters. She’s part of the current campaign. She can speak to abortion rights.

She’ll need to canvass the hell out of everywhere. But she is a key figure in the national stage and the natural successor.

I don’t think anyone else has a hope really.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
I am good with Harris but I genuinely believe there are numerous candidates that could still beat Trump. Ideally, In a short race if there is an enigmatic candidate that can capture the countries desire to be inspired over a 3 month period leading up to Election Day and before any backlash or negative branding can grab hold, I think they could win in a landslide. I am not sure who that is or if that person exists but if the Dems were to nominate that person I could see them really cleaning up.
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I agree with you, but I don’t think that person exists.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
I am good with Harris but I genuinely believe there are numerous candidates that could still beat Trump. Ideally, In a short race if there is an enigmatic candidate that can capture the countries desire to be inspired over a 3 month period leading up to Election Day and before any backlash or negative branding can grab hold, I think they could win in a landslide. I am not sure who that is or if that person exists but if the Dems were to nominate that person I could see them really cleaning up.
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I don't disagree there are others who could beat Trump, I just expect major backlash if they pass over Harris at this point—which could affect things enough that even someone who could beat Trump doesn't.
 
avecigrec said:
I don't disagree there are others who could beat Trump, I just expect major backlash if they pass over Harris at this point—which could affect things enough that even someone who could beat Trump doesn't.
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I don’t see anyone in the Democratic field today can command a greater percentage of the Democratic base than Biden. It may have been possible 9 months ago, but it seems more remote by the day.

If the Democrats want to win, they have to rally instead of taking shots at their own candidate (no pun intended). That’s how Hillary lost.
 
Angsty said:
I don’t see anyone in the Democratic field today can command a greater percentage of the Democratic base than Biden. It may have been possible 9 months ago, but it seems more remote by the day.

If the Democrats want to win, they have to rally instead of taking shots at their own candidate (no pun intended). That’s how Hillary lost.
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He’s slipping in the polls every day and the man getting off the plane this evening is not going to beat Trump. Hell, I’ll be surprised if they don’t start asking him to resign. This is a mess.

Furthermore, it was clear to me that Vance was a great pick for VP tonight. With the dems having money dry up and nothing going Biden’s way… Vance made a very compelling populist appeal (if you don’t bother to fact check him or think about the fact that Trump very much did the opposite of all of that when he ran on a very similar platform.)

The dems do need to rally, but Biden’s a lost cause.
 
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