Political Discussion

[ayayrawn]

Question for you- would picking Shapiro as her running mate effect your chances of voting for her?

Would not help.

 

[OMC]

There's certainly a difference between disposing of a soiled flag through incineration and burning a flag in protest to make a point. I think the latter still falls under freedom of speech, and while it's alarming, that's the entire point.

But don't get me started on Flag Code. This Eagle Scout really wants to print business cards with the Iflag code on them to leave in the windshield wipers of Dodge Rams flying shredded flags in the name of patriotism, or to hand to folks who adorn themselves with them as clothing. It's absolutely wild how far people will disrespect their flag in the name of patriotism.

I remember well when Abbie Hoffman wore a shirt that looked like an American flag and was arrested.

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

What I really love are dumb fucks with Punisher flag stickers right next to their blue lives matter bumper stickers.

Or the ones that fly a Trump flag above an American flag.

 

[Nee Lewman]

Or the ones that fly a Trump flag above an American flag.

I have never seen this. Jeebus.

 

[Vinyl&Kicks86]

I knew it had to be a fake story, but funny enough I did work with a guy at a pizza place whose mom caught him humping their couch cushions when he was 13. So it wasn't totally absurd to think he'd done it.

 

[mdmost]

What I really love are dumb fucks with Punisher flag stickers right next to their blue lives matter bumper stickers.

I blame Chris Kyle (American Sniper) for this. He adopted that and then it took off after his death.

And this is great to see about that piece of shit.

JD Vance sex slur is deleted by AP after 'fact-check' of lurid claim

The Associated Press has deleted an article where they fact-checked a wild claim about Donald Trump 's VP choice JD Vance .

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[folsom_lives]

There's certainly a difference between disposing of a soiled flag through incineration and burning a flag in protest to make a point. I think the latter still falls under freedom of speech, and while it's alarming, that's the entire point.

But don't get me started on Flag Code. This Eagle Scout really wants to print business cards with the flag code on them to leave in the windshield wipers of Dodge Rams flying shredded flags in the name of patriotism, or to hand to folks who adorn themselves with them as clothing. It's absolutely wild how far people will disrespect their flag in the name of patriotism.

There's a guy in my neighborhood that flies the Gadsden flag above the American flag and I always shake my head as I walk by.

 

[Nee Lewman]

This election will be covered in history books. This shit is mad wild.

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

I have never seen this. Jeebus.

There was a fool in my neighborhood that used to do this. Thankfully he finally moved.

 

[Hemotep]

I remember well when Abbie Hoffman wore a shirt that looked like an American flag and was arrested.

It still breaks my heart that he saw all his compatriots sell out and when he couldn't bear being alone anymore he killed himself. RIP Abbie.

 

[Nee Lewman]

There's a guy in my neighborhood that flies the Gadsden flag above the American flag and I always shake my head as I walk by.

I have seen this.

 

[Vinyl&Kicks86]

This election will be covered in history books. This shit is mad wild.

 

[Nee Lewman]

I can also imagine the late night panic of JD Vance when the story was brought to his attention. “Did I write that?”

 

[ayayrawn]

The point is there are areas where voting does matter and if your vote makes minimal difference on that one area than it’s important to also reflect on the areas where your vote would make a huge difference.

I think most on here especially agree that the genocide happening is appalling. Some of us are just a bit more pragmatic and don’t want to cut off our nose to spite our face.

I feel like excusing the heinous work of politicians under the mask of pragmatism is largely why we're at this crossroads now. At what point does what you're deciding to look past become just as evil as what you think you're voting against? At some point voting for a lesser evil has to become unsustainable. People will reject the process altogether and refuse to participate or turn towards loud outsiders (see you know who). I get what you're saying, but pragmatism alone not only won't get us anywhere, but actively continue making things worse (for everybody around the world unfortunately, and not just us).

 

[ayayrawn]

Also burning the flag is cool and legal

 

[Nee Lewman]

I feel like excusing the heinous work of politicians under the mask of pragmatism is largely why we're at this crossroads now. At what point does what you're deciding to look past become just as evil as what you think you're voting against? At some point voting for a lesser evil has to become unsustainable. People will reject the process altogether and refuse to participate or turn towards loud outsiders (see you know who). I get what you're saying, but pragmatism alone not only won't get us anywhere, but actively continue making things worse (for everybody around the world unfortunately, and not just us).

I don’t disagree with any of this.

I also suspect Harris hopes that folks read what she wrote instead of reacting to what is read into it.

 

[DownIsTheNewUp]

I feel like excusing the heinous work of politicians under the mask of pragmatism is largely why we're at this crossroads now. At what point does what you're deciding to look past become just as evil as what you think you're voting against? At some point voting for a lesser evil has to become unsustainable. People will reject the process altogether and refuse to participate or turn towards loud outsiders (see you know who). I get what you're saying, but pragmatism alone not only won't get us anywhere, but actively continue making things worse (for everybody around the world unfortunately, and not just us).

Except, as I've already laid out, Biden did more to fight back against major corporations and for the working and indebted classes than any president since the 1960s.

So claiming, "two evils" is a wild oversimplification. This isnt 2000. Domestically, one party has shifted to the left and alligned with progressives to create a big tent that is fighting to make America a better place for everyone except the super rich. The other is fucking fascist and wants to make life harder on everyone except the super rich.

 

[ayayrawn]

I don’t disagree with any of this.

I also suspect Harris hopes that folks read what she wrote instead of reacting to what is read into it.

I think her position will become much more obvious in the coming days. Can't say I'm holding my breath.

Except, as I've already laid out, Biden did more to fight back against major corporations and for the working and indebted classes than any president since the 1960s.

So claiming, "two evils" is a wild oversimplification. This isnt 2000. Domestically, one party has shifted to the left and alligned with progressives to create a big tent that is fighting to make America a better place for everyone except the super rich. The other is fucking fascist and wants to make life harder on everyone except the super rich.

Biden also unapologetically spearheaded and bankrolled a genocide. That's enough to constitute as evil for some people.

 

[OMC]

Let youth be served. They are the future.

 

[Nee Lewman]

I think her position will become much more obvious in the coming days. Can't say I'm holding my breath.



Biden also unapologetically spearheaded and bankrolled a genocide. That's enough to constitute as evil for some people.

Spearheaded?