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You can't call it yet though, right? If Bernie wins Texas and California, he'll can still have more delegates, right?

Edit: I guess he'd have to take almost all the delegates which is unlikely.
 
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Dtknuckles said:
I mean she could give all her delicates (I’m just gonna leave that predictive text mistake in there) to Bernie.
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What I'm hoping on by this point. Arguably what should've happened two days ago.

Still, we'll not have had half of all states come in after tonight. But boy oh boy do things need to go well, or at least contestable for Bernie in the next couple of weeks.
 
Dtknuckles said:
I mean she could give all her delicates (I’m just gonna leave that predictive text mistake in there) to Bernie.
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As far as I understand, the delegates don't have to do what she asks, even if she does decide to do that. Plus there are places she won't get the 15 (?) % necessary anyway, so those votes she did get would have gone to waste.
 
neoliberal establishment wins again

looks like we will have 4 years of "ok lets slightly reverse the damages we didn't like" instead of general change
 
It's strange that people seem surprised by Biden taking MN. Klobuchar was polling very strong and when she bailed that seemed like the likely outcome. I was hoping that the Sanders or Warren campaign would've turned out more voters in the Twin Cities but it seems that they didn't / the progressive messaging has not been resonating with people in this part of the country. This was something I was afraid would happen.

We'll see what happens on the West coast but regardless it looks like a very steep climb to win over enough people in the rust belt / great lakes / upper midwest.

I'll be curious to see what narrative comes out of the sanders camp and whether or not the approach will be to fight through the convention or call it a day and try to build a coalition around Biden. The later seems unlikely.

Unfortunately for progressives Bloomberg's dollars didn't siphon off enough votes from Sanders. The polling data and models seem to have been more wrong than right again / they didn't have enough time to calibrate after S.C. and the Pete and Klobuchar dropouts

I'm still trying to be optimistic that enough people will turn out in November who feel a moral duty to vote against Trump.
 
duke86fan said:
neoliberal establishment wins again
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I've been thinking about this term and it has always made me a little uncomfortable because it gets thrown around a lot, myself included, and it seems to mean whatever people want it to mean. Both parties support neo-liberal economic policies and programs.

I don't agree with everything the author says in this almost 3 year old article but I think it's worth the read.
nymag.com

How ‘Neoliberalism’ Became the Left’s Favorite Insult of Liberals

The rise and meaning of an ubiquitous term of abuse.
nymag.com nymag.com
 
Phaneronic said:
Unfortunately I think this has a lot to do with it.

Obama did decent all things considered!
Biden was Obama's VP!
Biden should do a good job then! BERNIE SCARY!

Oof, I'm frustrated. All I keep wondering is who failed to prepare our generation for this, I guess.
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Close.

That almost mirrors what they said about Tennessee last night, where Biden never even stepped foot in once.

Chuck Todd used the word Kook for Bernie rather than scary. That's how most people who are not into socialism sum up Bernie Sanders.
 
BjorgenFjorgen said:
It's very shitty to want a better world!
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It is shitty to hide behind claims of making a better world as an excuse to be shitty, yes.
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Also should note that young people turnout was incredibly low. Not suggesting all of them would have voted for Bernie, but it’s still disappointing when the younger generation sits out voting. I know many younger people I work with who didn’t vote in the presidential election last time and were upset when Trump lost, saying they’d finally vote next time. Well I hope they also know voting in primaries and local elections are also really important, though I doubt it.
 
Hey at least the school board elections worked out pretty well. 3/4 pro public 1 with a run off likely.

Looking at the primary I don’t see it as all negative. The types of issues that Bernie brings up weren’t even on the table a decade ago. 2016 primary was a long shot. 2020 primary he got even closer. Progressive ideas are gaining.

Bernie was always up against the DNC. They did what was expected, consolidated power. They saw their chance after Carolina. That and Warren splitting the progressive votes caused this.

I’ll vote for anyone over Trump as any reasonable person will.
 
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