The Blue Note Thread

Atlantic Coltrane does have some greatness. Added a BG Coltrane Jazz recently and it's stellar.
I don't have Giant Steps yet. Still on the list to buy.
 
Dtknuckles said:
What do you like better about the music on BT?
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I like them both a lot, so it’s not like I think this is an obvious preference. It’s just mine.

Blue Train is more musical and melodic to me, probably for to the addition of Lee Morgan and Curtis Fuller. Adds more variety and texture to the sound. I think I also prefer Kenny Drew on BT, although the sound from original recordings of the pianos themselves may play into that.

Compositionally, GS is more interesting, but some of the tracks err too much on the side of an exercise in Coltrane technical prowess. Again, I really like GS, and I even like exercises in technical prowess (I’m a prog rock fan!), but when I reach for Coltrane, BT is more likely to hit the mood I’m after.

All that said, for me, Naima and Syeeda’s Song Flute hold up to anything on Blue Train.
 
Portland Sheriff said:
I like them both a lot, so it’s not like I think this is an obvious preference. It’s just mine.

Blue Train is more musical and melodic to me, probably for to the addition of Lee Morgan and Curtis Fuller. Adds more variety and texture to the sound. I think I also prefer Kenny Drew on BT, although the sound from original recordings of the pianos themselves may play into that.

Compositionally, GS is more interesting, but some of the tracks err too much on the side of an exercise in Coltrane technical prowess. Again, I really like GS, and I even like exercises in technical prowess (I’m a prog rock fan!), but when I reach for Coltrane, BT is more likely to hit the mood I’m after.

All that said, for me, Naima and Syeeda’s Song Flute hold up to anything on Blue Train.
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Perhaps I should add that the AS reissue of Crescent vaulted that album for me. And that the Complete Live at the Village Vanguard cd box set had more of an impact on my lifetime musical journey than any other Coltrane release — by a mile.
 
Dtknuckles said:
I’ll give this album one more chance to add to the too many chances I’ve already given it. I mean it’s a good album, but John has so many great albums. I’ll take Giant Steps over this album anyday.
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Giant Steps was my go-to Coltrane for quite a while. I've read a few accounts that state the title track is often used as a way of testing potential side men as it's just so tricky to follow. Hell, even Tommy Flanagan struggles with the pace.
 
Selaws said:
Giant Steps was my go-to Coltrane for quite a while. I've read a few accounts that state the title track is often used as a way of testing potential side men as it's just so tricky to follow. Hell, even Tommy Flanagan struggles with the pace.
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In fact, to this day the Giant Steps changes are a rite of passage for tenor players.

It's tough for any bass player. All the piano can do is comp.
 
Jbraswell said:
Atlantic Coltrane does have some greatness. Added a BG Coltrane Jazz recently and it's stellar.
I don't have Giant Steps yet. Still on the list to buy.
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Coltrane Jazz is fine, but at the end of the day it is Giant Steps leftovers.

Aside from Giant Steps, the great and everlasting Atlantic records are My Favorite Things and Coltrane Plays The Blues.

And then, Ole, which despite being a contractual obligation record is essentially the warmup for Africa/Brass, with which it goes hand in hand.
 
RHANDMJ said:
Coltrane Jazz is fine, but at the end of the day it is Giant Steps leftovers.

Aside from Giant Steps, the great and everlasting Atlantic records are My Favorite Things and Coltrane Plays The Blues.

And then, Ole, which despite being a contractual obligation record is essentially the warmup for Africa/Brass, with which it goes hand in hand.
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Coltrane Plays The Blues files under the radar.
I grabbed a 45 and it's incredible.
 
I seem to be on a bad run with sellers with hundreds of ratings @ 100% 5-star, so seemingly reliable, who are sending items that aren’t close to what’s represented. I just received a copy of this Art Blakey + JMs “Freedom Rider” The seller described in a private message to me, in reply to my question about condition, as follows:
I just finished playing the album and it plays very clear and clean. No noise, snap, crackle or pops. It is my opinion that it rates as very good ++ or excellent. To me a record is Mint if it's new or hasn't been played.
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This thing has “snap, crackle and pops” basically throughout the whole record. Play-tested, I would call this VG and, visually, it is VG at best (there are marks all over it). The music sounds good (i.e., the grooves aren’t completely worn out) but there’s a steady stream of audible surface noise on both sides.

I sell on eBay and Discogs and would never have characterized this record as this seller did. There seems to be a recent pattern of this for me, and I don’t know if that’s just how it is, if I’m doing something wrong, or whatever, but it’s frustrating. I’m not trying to be picky about condition. I just want to receive what’s being held out by the sellers, and, too often, I don’t in not-subtle ways.

Apologies for some venting, but I’m also interested in constructive advice. I know I can avoid this by sticking w/ reissues, but that’s not really what I want to do (exclusively), and I don’t know to do a better job searching for these items.
 
MikeH said:
Schizophrenia got a heavy wink from Joe Harley recently in a video...so I think we're gonna get a TP of that one at least.
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And a different remaster from the one they did for VMP. Stanley Turrentine "Mr Natural" and Chet Baker "Sings and Plays" are other two TP for 2023.

These two are the first and to be released in February Andrew Hill "Dance With Death" and Carmell Jones "The Remarkable Carmel Jones".

It makes 5 releases so far.
 
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