Vinyl Me Please Classics

CCKrone said:
Oh RobbieBobby, no... just no.
This isn't a competition on which Classics release is the worst.
I gave Money Talks as many playthroughs as I could handle (about 2.5) and realized that it wasn't an album I liked.
I don't care that it's an album of outtakes other than the chances of an album of outtakes being a key release for an artist is incredibly slim.
I don't think I would ever call Albert King's music lazy. He also changes the music to fit his style and not play them just like Elvis did.
I'm glad you like Money Talks. It's just not for me.
I'm happy to hear it sounds fantastic. I just don't like the music and I don't like the album. It's not worth what VMP is selling it for.
That's my opinion but I wouldn't call the music lazy (or stupid as was suggested by another person earlier)
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Yeah I'm not really making it a competition, just comparing a few releases.

Also rereading what I said, I had meant to say the pick of an album of Elvis covers was lazy, but it definitely reads like I am calling Albert King lazy.

Either way, enjoyed the condescending tone of your response, but maybe you didn't mean to come across that way.
 
RobbieBobby said:
Yeah I'm not really making it a competition, just comparing a few releases.

Also rereading what I said, I had meant to say the pick of an album of Elvis covers was lazy, but it definitely reads like I am calling Albert King lazy.

Either way, enjoyed the condescending tone of your response, but maybe you didn't mean to come across that way.
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Wasn't the intent to come across as condescending.
I definitely took issue with calling Albert King's music lazy. I don't think it's fair to call any artist's music lazy except for extreme circumstances like Milli Vanilli which was just a weird thing for a record label to do.
We agree that it may not be the best Albert King pick as there are so many great albums by him that could have been chosen instead.
We also agree that Storf's picks need work, they have not been great for most of 2020 and some parts of 2019.
 
JonnyH said:
I had no idea there was an AC/DC album in classics.
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That money talks would have been a better choice!

I think Patrice Rushen, Albert King, and The Bar-Kays have been three terrible picks for three different reasons this year and are among the worst picks in the series.

Rushen isn't a bad album per se, but it is pretty dated, doesn't fit the Classics parameters, and didn't need a deluxe reissue version.

Albert King is 100 percent a Classics artist. And a great example of an artist that most people only know for one album (Born Under A Bad Sign) and by reputation. You could have literally picked any Albert King album for this sub and they picked a covers album. I get that the performance is fine on it, but it does a disservice to the man's art to pick a throwaway album as his representative release in this series.

The Bar-Kays is an outtake album with one great song (and not even the most renowned version of it despite appearing twice) and a bunch of filler. Once again, I could have seen the case for most of their other albums. Money Talks was a money grab from Stax and doesn't tell a story about the band other than label fanboy-ism.
 
Who cares if it's a covers album? Green Onions was a covers album except for the title track. Both of those are killer Booker T and the MG's records at their peak. The Rolling Stones' first 3-4 albums were all basically cover albums. They basically took a bunch of Elvis tunes and turned them into original Albert King/Booker T songs and it kills. Not to mention the SQ on that album is as good as we've ever gotten from VMP
 
keylime_5 said:
Who cares if it's a covers album? Green Onions was a covers album except for the title track. Both of those are killer Booker T and the MG's records at their peak. The Rolling Stones' first 3-4 albums were all basically cover albums. They basically took a bunch of Elvis tunes and turned them into original Albert King/Booker T songs and it kills. Not to mention the SQ on that album is as good as we've ever gotten from VMP
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Agreed! That Albert King Classics ROTM is so freaking good! The music and vocals are superb and the pressing sounds amazing! I absolutely love it! ♥️
 
keylime_5 said:
....and not for nothing, Physical Graffiti is an outtakes album. The fact that Money Talks is an outtakes album has nothing to do with why it's not their best choice for a Classics pick.
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Physical Graffiti was mostly new songs, with the double album being padded out with outtakes by the band. It wasn't a cash grab by Atlantic like Money Talks was by Stax. And if Money Talks was remotely on the same plane as PG, then no one would be complaining.
 
wmeugene said:
Physical Graffiti was mostly new songs, with the double album being padded out with outtakes by the band. It wasn't a cash grab by Atlantic like Money Talks was by Stax. And if Money Talks was remotely on the same plane as PG, then no one would be complaining.
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there were 7 outtake songs on that album, which to my point is that whether an album is composed of outtakes or not doesn’t mean squat. That’s not why it’s not a great album. You could throw together a ton of killer outtake albums by many many bands.
 
keylime_5 said:
Who cares if it's a covers album? Green Onions was a covers album except for the title track. Both of those are killer Booker T and the MG's records at their peak. The Rolling Stones' first 3-4 albums were all basically cover albums. They basically took a bunch of Elvis tunes and turned them into original Albert King/Booker T songs and it kills. Not to mention the SQ on that album is as good as we've ever gotten from VMP
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There's a difference between an album mostly of covers (such as the Stones first few albums), and an actual project centered around covering a specific artist. Furthermore, when said artist has many albums of his own right that are deserving of attention. For many of us, the King album is a novelty. I get that it sounds good and is well performed, but a novelty it still is. And I'm not, and many others are not, in the habit of buying $30 novelty records. Your mileage may vary of course.
 
I understand why Patrice Rushen is getting a bit of hate, but I just love that Classics pick so much! Yes, it’s not a typical Classics pick, but I don’t think the music sounds outdated at all! Forget Me Nots, Remind Me and Number One (Instrumental) all sound fresh as! And the album in general sounds great with its exquisite production! It’s Patrice Rushen’s best album and I am so glad VMP gave this the audiophile treatment.

Albert King’s King Does The King’s Things is definitely not a throwaway album In my opinion. It’s not as good as Born Under A Bad Sign and Years Gone By or I’ll Play the Blues For You but it’s still a great album! The musicality on that album is great! And Albert King’s voice is a joy to listen to as well!

The Bar-Kays pick is my least favourite pick out of these three Classics ROTM! But I still like the pick! The song “Monster” is saucy, delicious, sexy and classy! I think that’s my favourite on the album! The title track is a superbly tight, confident, fun, funky track and I love it too. Not all songs are fillers apart from “Holy Ghost”!

I’m still loving all the Classics ROTM picks so far, but also understand why a lot of people feel letdown by the picks.
 
keylime_5 said:
Who cares if it's a covers album? Green Onions was a covers album except for the title track. Both of those are killer Booker T and the MG's records at their peak. The Rolling Stones' first 3-4 albums were all basically cover albums. They basically took a bunch of Elvis tunes and turned them into original Albert King/Booker T songs and it kills. Not to mention the SQ on that album is as good as we've ever gotten from VMP
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I agree that focusing on covers/outtakes as binary disqualifiers isn't a great position.

I do think it is a little strange to criticize the choice for King for being covers, considering he only wrote 2 songs on BUABS and Years Gone By and only 1 on I'll Play the Blues For You. Not that most blues artists are any different. I agree with you that that a covers discussion is separate from actual album quality rating, but it fails on that front for me personally at this price point.

I'm very glad for those of you that enjoy it that they seem to have done such a great job with the mastering.
 
dhodo said:
I'm very glad for those of you that enjoy it that they seem to have done such a great job with the mastering.
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Apparently the Bar-Kays “Money Talks” pressing sounds phenomenal as well! I just know I’m in for a treat with that one! When the needle drops and ‘Holy Ghost’ starts playing, I’m gonna be in a funk paradise! 😍🏝

And I’m also excited to drop the needle on side B of Money Talks, because the track “Money Talks” (first track on Side B), is also super funky, and has a lot going on musically, but is super fun!😍🕺

I love the Classics ROTM track so much! I love it so dearly! ♥️♥️♥️
 
NathanRicaud said:
Apparently the Bar-Kays “Money Talks” pressing sounds phenomenal as well! I just know I’m in for a treat with that one! When the needle drops and ‘Holy Ghost’ starts playing, I’m gonna be in a funk paradise! 😍🏝

And I’m also excited to drop the needle on side B of Money Talks, because the track “Money Talks” (first track on Side B), is also super funky, and has a lot going on musically, but is super fun!😍🕺

I love the Classics ROTM track so much! I love it so dearly! ♥♥♥
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I’m curious. If you could only have ONE VMP track moving forward and could never swap out for any of the other ones, which one would you subscribe to?
 
supahypeag said:
I’m curious. If you could only have ONE VMP track moving forward and could never swap out for any of the other ones, which one would you subscribe to?
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The Classics ROTM track! Second would be the Essentials ROTM track. It’s close between those two though! Because we are getting magnificent albums from Buena Vista Social Club and Spiritualized! Also, I really liked the Stevie Nicks, The Roots, Dirty Projectors, The Stooges and The White Stripes picks as well! And I actually really enjoy the John Mayer album and really like the Caroline Rose ROTM album too!

For 2019, it’s easily the Classics track, but in 2020, it’s very even between the Essentials and Classics ROTM picks! I think I prefer the Essential picks so far!

The Rap & Hip-Hop track is definitely my least favourite though as it’s too inconsistent! Hip-Hop is my favourite genre so it is a massive home-run when VMP hit the spot, like with Lord Finesse and Prince Paul. But then we get Rick Ross, a mediocre Future album & an underwhelming N*E*R*D album. So yeah, it’s easily my least favourite track, even though I still love it!
 
jamieanderson1968 said:
I would like to think at least one VMP customer would say something, because you know, the whole murdering his girlfriend thing
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I don't see anyone taking issue with Let It Be, Imagine, All Things Must Pass, or any Beatles-related Phil Spector production so I think that's overblown. Also cancel culture nowadays has gotten pretty ridiculous.
 
jamieanderson1968 said:
I would like to think at least one VMP customer would say something, because you know, the whole murdering his girlfriend thing
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Yeah, that's a tricky one. It is a classic and I don't feel bad listening to the songs, but it sucks that the license still goes to his family and that he has that creepy talking part on it.
 
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