Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)
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Dead C
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I hear what you're saying.
As someone who did touch the stuff again -- A LOT -- and is literally using the still photo of a scene from a documentary where a man talks about hallucinating as a huffing addict as my avatar, it just sounds incredibly reckless and... I don't know... not to sound condescending or shitty, but kind of an immature mindset to be pitching that idea to others that doing drugs to experience music is the way to go. It might seem novelty if you have limited experience. And, by that, I don't even mean to imply that I know what someone's experiences extend to or that they are specifically related to how many times someone has "smoked weed" and put on a record, but let me know when you start racking up the dead friends, or if you've ever seen somebody get so fucked that they wind up with thrush as an adult and are climbing out of their hospital bed to go through the sharps container on the wall to find dilaudid to shoot into the IV in their neck.
The fact that I don't know the experiences of others is actually kind of the point, though. Without knowing them, I don't think it's a great idea to blindly subscribe potentially altering their entire existence and trajectory of their life. It feels like the first half of an after school special in here.
Ghost
Original Resident Ghost
If you will travel back in the thread you will see that Nathan was talking about trying weed for his first time. I was supplying him with a suggestion to enjoy it for his first time in a familiar and comfortable environment. I’m not advertising rampant drug use for the unwilling, don’t be ridiculous. Also I think we’re all adults here and are capable of taking what we read on the internet with a grain of salt. I’m not even recommending LSD to people here, I have seen two friends completely unravel and expedite early onset mental disorders upon themselves as a result of using it. I have lost friends and family at a shockingly young age to both prescription and hard drugs but even still, we are all adults capable of making our own decisions and we’re here on earth to do just that. Recommending someone to smoke some weed and listen to a record hardly sounds like a reckless idea.
sjaygray
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You'll get no flack from me on weed use. I'd rather see people doing that daily than drinking from a public health standpoint. I guess for me, it had a place in my life for a time and now not so much. I imagine that's a fairly common life progression. I know I enjoyed myself on many occasions while fairly high and listening to music. They just aren't memories that are all that tangible to me now.
Dead C
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A few things. I used to eat LSD pretty much every day. Looking in a mirror is the type of shit that I'd do on purpose. I was more of an ego smasher than looking for trippy rainbows. If you can't look at yourself... well... it's a pretty loaded statement. But, yes you can get yourself stuck as time and dimensions meld and evaporate. I had a theory that, beyond being forced to acknowledge mortality, death, and gradual human decay, there's an additional element where, when you look into a mirror, you are expecting to see something. Depending on your age, you have, most likely, looked into the mirror any number of times and seen a different face staring back at you, whether that deals with an evolution of haircuts and style changes, or simply you in various ages. So, when I'd look into the mirror, my expectations drawn from memory are merging and conflicting with whatever was in front of me and warping through time. You are trying to see YOU and might realize that you don't even know who that is.
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Anyway. My point is that everybody is different. That's exactly why I'm not about broadly encouraging anyone to do anything, unless I personally know them and am with them. I knew people who lost their shit and were jailed. I also know people who have done much worse.
Now, I'm just a dad. I don't even smoke cigarettes and, although I don't NOT drink, I can't remember the last time that I had a beer. There's not even a conscious effort, just not really any desire the most part. I don't think about it. But, as a father watching my 8-year-old lose his mind to the Phish live streams on Tuesday, I'm also forced to think about the type of shit I did following that band around the country and how I'd prefer him not to do most of it.
sjaygray
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Still Fiona
Gavaxeman
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TenderLovingKiller®
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I took 6 gel tabs before my senior graduation lock in at the high school (they wanted to keep us from drinking; mission accomplished) but the best part was we gotta go swimming at the Nauditorium about the time I peaked. Floating in a pool was amazing. That being said, I enjoyed swimming before LSD too I think any sensual activity be it music or swimming or staring at a wall can theoretically be enhanced by psychedelics but you have to admit most are pretty great already without it.Yeah avoiding mirrors has always been top of my list of not-to-dos while on psychedelics. Looked in the mirror once, made eye contact and felt if I didn’t break the gaze I’d be trapped in the mirror for eternity
Dead C
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Thanks for that. I'm looking back now and agree that context is definitely important . I, admittedly, only looked at the specific comment that Nathan made that you were responding to. That being said, the one thing that it felt was missing from your comment was the "if." As in, "IF" you decided to do that, you might want to be aware of x and y and try it out for the first time in an environment that you're comfortable in, because people react differently. Since you're a music fan, maybe put on a record that you enjoy.
Maybe, at that point of the conversation, you didn't feel that was necessary, because, now that I look back, I see that other comments from @Murfocakes and @blenoxsmith made sure to include those disclaimers.
I'm not discounting the possibility that it might just be how I, personally, interpreted it, but your comment felt more like outright encouraging someone to do it, rather than advice about how to do it IF they did it. The LSD jump you made is on you. A lot of those artists that created so much of that shit -- the ones that survived, anyway -- will tell you that they were mistaken by that belief that they needed those substances and the fear that they couldn't operate without it almost killed them. So, that's why I have an aversion to promoting that idea, as well. Zappa didn't even fuck with drugs. Lil Wayne drinks lean like a junkie, but I don't think that's a great overall idea to perpetuate that you can't fully experience or create something without that.
Dead C
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Thanks. Whether or not it's true, that's a nice thing to say. It's important to note that I also "turned out" alive, which wasn't really a foregone conclusion.
Matt M
Santa Extraordinaire
Yeah, me too. Previous email said September too, from what I remember.
MikeH
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Lots of delays from VMP...
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Just Coolin'
Makes it even funnier that they are sending some proceeds from Whitney to charity since it won't even ship until July now...
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Just Coolin'
- Shipping month changed from May to September
- Expected ship date is currently TBD
- Shipping month changed from May to July
- The street date has been moved from May 6th to July 24th. We expect this to ship in August.
- Expected to ship in May
- The street date has been pushed, exact date TBD but estimating it will be within the June-July timeframe.
Makes it even funnier that they are sending some proceeds from Whitney to charity since it won't even ship until July now...
Dead C
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The conversations get pretty heavy already. We've gone down some wacky tunnels.
I love how they are pushing a Whitney Houston box set for charity that they are so delayed on that it's just TBD.
Dead C
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Also, since we've already diverted so far off course... if anyone is interested, I did write a couple of excruciatingly wordy, essay-length pieces examining LSD. One was based around studies done in the 1950s and, more specifically, a video featuring a housewife that was filmed after ingesting some L-25. It kind of covers why/where/when the study was done and the history of the people behind it, along with anecdotes about its initial use as treatments for such things as addiction, etc. From what I remember, there's probably some of my own wingnut theories in there pertaining to such things as watching your face melt in a bathroom mirror.
www.monsterfresh.com
This other one is a review of a graphic novel, of sorts, about Bicycle Day and the discovery of LSD by Albert Hoffman. It's a book review, but I'm also an obsessive, so there's still a decent amount of information packed into it to fill it out.
www.monsterfresh.com
Examining The Video “1950s Housewife On LSD”
Factoring in details about individuals involved, the era, & personal experience, here’s why we believe this footage is historically significant 6 decades later.
www.monsterfresh.com
This other one is a review of a graphic novel, of sorts, about Bicycle Day and the discovery of LSD by Albert Hoffman. It's a book review, but I'm also an obsessive, so there's still a decent amount of information packed into it to fill it out.
Mystic Code’s Wild Ride: Brian Blomerth’s Bicycle Day Reviewed
The Brooklyn illustrator offers a 200pg highly informative, yet psychedelic as all get out, retelling of the discovery & first ever intentional ingestion of LSD
www.monsterfresh.com
thebrianjackson
New Member
Now the sticker VMP sent last month of the record who has apparently hit rock bottom makes sense. It's selling itself for some of those Good Vibes™.
TenderLovingKiller®
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Bicycle Day is great graphic novel.Also, since we've already diverted so far off course... if anyone is interested, I did write a couple of excruciatingly wordy, essay-length pieces examining LSD. One was based around studies done in the 1950s and, more specifically, a video featuring a housewife that was filmed after ingesting some L-25. It kind of covers why/where/when the study was done and the history of the people behind it, along with anecdotes about its initial use as treatments for such things as addiction, etc. From what I remember, there's probably some of my own wingnut theories in there pertaining to such things as watching your face melt in a bathroom mirror.
Examining The Video “1950s Housewife On LSD”
Factoring in details about individuals involved, the era, & personal experience, here’s why we believe this footage is historically significant 6 decades later.
This other one is a review of a graphic novel, of sorts, about Bicycle Day and the discovery of LSD by Albert Hoffman. It's a book review, but I'm also an obsessive, so there's still a decent amount of information packed into it to fill it out.
Mystic Code’s Wild Ride: Brian Blomerth’s Bicycle Day Reviewed
The Brooklyn illustrator offers a 200pg highly informative, yet psychedelic as all get out, retelling of the discovery & first ever intentional ingestion of LSD
Also, Here is a link to Hofmann’s notes regarding his self experimentation...
Albert Hofmann's My Problem Child
The text of 'My Problem Child' by Albert Hofmann
www.hallucinogens.org