Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

MikeH said:
Supposedly it's one of the better selling tracks. It's one of the only tracks that sells out stuff still.

I think doing this is definitely....a strategy. And probably a good thing for people in the EU that want to grab a VMP record without subbing...probably a way to try right the ship financially after lots of bad decisions. More likely to piss off customers and lower subscriber numbers especially for internationals. Part of me wonders if they will get rid of international subs altogether and replace it with something like this where they stock their records at HHV or some other EU shops.
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Maybe they can ask HHV to help get @Selaws their packages?
 
MikeH said:
Supposedly it's one of the better selling tracks. It's one of the only tracks that sells out stuff still.

I think doing this is definitely....a strategy. And probably a good thing for people in the EU that want to grab a VMP record without subbing...probably a way to try right the ship financially after lots of bad decisions. More likely to piss off customers and lower subscriber numbers especially for internationals. Part of me wonders if they will get rid of international subs altogether and replace it with something like this where they stock their records at HHV or some other EU shops.
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I know from the cost of my international shipping that even with a discount, they can’t be making money on what they charge for international subscriptions. I’m always astonished at the cost of international shipping, particularly outside of North America.
 
wmeugene said:
I know from the cost of my international shipping that even with a discount, they can’t be making money on what they charge for international subscriptions. I’m always astonished at the cost of international shipping, particularly outside of North America.
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They definitely get some kinda bulk discount but I agree that their charge for international shipping is probably a decent bargain for international subscribers and likely doesn’t make a ton of sense for the company. Especially with mailing out replacements separately any time there’s a warp or the records don’t get to where they need to go…
 
Skalap said:
I am actually surprised by how cheap these records are, considering HHV is certainly making money selling these. VMP must be in need for money.
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I looked through the list and the hip hop stuff make sense because hhv predominantly sells hip hop bur t there is also some country and lots if older store exclusive ( variants for older records that other options exist for) that are probably hard to sell at those prices. So I guess hhv got the whole package at a huge discount
 
Jan said:
That's actually cool for me so I can get zhe few title I did want from.them for a lot cheaper than through vmp. Any special recommendqtuons from the list ?
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It’s actually a quite sensible decision. They’ve had most of those in stock (and I’m guessing in fairly big numbers) for ages now so why not clear the deck at a wholesale cost and potentially get a little tiny bit of additional exposure in a foreign market at the same time.

HHV are pretty well respected too so it’s not like it’s some randomer flogging albums from a VW camper in a car park.
 
Jan said:
I looked through the list and the hip hop stuff make sense because hhv predominantly sells hip hop bur t there is also some country and lots if older store exclusive ( variants for older records that other options exist for) that are probably hard to sell at those prices. So I guess hhv got the whole package at a huge discount
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Rowan said:
It’s actually a quite sensible decision. They’ve had most of those in stock (and I’m guessing in fairly big numbers) for ages now so why not clear the deck at a wholesale cost and potentially get a little tiny bit of additional exposure in a foreign market at the same time.

HHV are pretty well respected too so it’s not like it’s some randomer flogging albums from a VW camper in a car park.
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Agreed, it just goes a bit against the "cannot be found anywhere else"
 
Jan said:
agreed, It´s mostly older rotms, so they are probably trying to reduce costs by getting rid of dead stock. Probably sold it at cost or with a little loss to hhv generaing both income and shelf space.
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To be honest, it would not be a bad move to make HHV their "support" for Europe. They could reduce their shipping costs by having a certain number of records shipped to one and only location, they can touch a wider audience and avoid all the issues they have with replacing damaged records.
 
Skalap said:
To be honest, it would not be a bad move to make HHV their "support" for Europe. They could reduce their shipping costs by having a certain number of records shipped to one and only location, they can touch a wider audience and avoid all the issues they have with replacing damaged records.
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yes, but it takes from their subsription model if you can just go and buy the records you like from a european retailer.
 
Skalap said:
To be honest, it would not be a bad move to make HHV their "support" for Europe. They could reduce their shipping costs by having a certain number of records shipped to one and only location, they can touch a wider audience and avoid all the issues they have with replacing damaged records.
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You think HHV wants to deal with being the CS fulfillment center for VMP in Europe?

Jan said:
yes, but it takes from their subsription model if you can just go and buy the records you like from a european retailer.
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I imagine this is by design. They probably wouldn’t mind getting rid of the international subscription model in favor or something like selling HHV stock at wholesale price. I’d bet they make more money on US subs price per unit than they do on international once shipping is taken into account.

I don’t know why people think VMP is selling these for pennies on the dollar here to HHV. They are definitely still making a bunch of money on these. Wholesale cost doesn’t mean at cost. Even if wholesale is 30%-40% off, VMP’s markup is more than that.
 
MikeH said:
You think HHV wants to deal with being the CS fulfillment center for VMP in Europe?


I imagine this is by design. They probably wouldn’t mind getting rid of the international subscription model in favor or something like selling HHV stock at wholesale price. I’d bet they make more money on US subs price per unit than they do on international once shipping is taken into account.

I don’t know why people think VMP is selling these for pennies on the dollar here to HHV. They are definitely still making a bunch of money on these. Wholesale cost doesn’t mean at cost. Even if wholesale is 30%-40% off, VMP’s markup is more than that.
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Would depend on how many European subscribers VMP have.
 
MikeH said:
I imagine this is by design. They probably wouldn’t mind getting rid of the international subscription model in favor or something like selling HHV stock at wholesale price. I’d bet they make more money on US subs price per unit than they do on international once shipping is taken into account.
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I could imagine that. i always wondered when i was a subscriber a while back in how many different packages they would split orders even for intl customers. Dealing with this and the shipping could mean that they are not really sorry about intl customers going.
MikeH said:
I don’t know why people think VMP is selling these for pennies on the dollar here to HHV. They are definitely still making a bunch of money on these. Wholesale cost doesn’t mean at cost. Even if wholesale is 30%-40% off, VMP’s markup is more than that.
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Basically assumed this from HHV selling those at 35 $.. They have to pay at least 20% customs and import duties( i guess hshipping is neglible). but Given they have a bunch of stuff in there that is probably unsellable at those prices ( jujus alchemy, lapsley, a bunch of store exclusives...) i would guess that they will have to have to make a margin of 10-20% on the record as well to earn something with the records ( maybe more given that they will only be able to sell many of those discounted)
 
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Jan said:
I could imagine that. i always wondered when i was a subscriber a while back in how many different packages they would split orders even for intl customers. Dealing with this and the shipping could mean that they are not really sorry about intl customers going.


Basically asumed this from HHV selling those at 35 $.. They have to pay at least 20% customs and import duties( i guess hshipping is neglible). but Given they have a bunch of stuff in there that is probably unsellable at those prices ( jujus alchemy, lapsley, a bunch of store exclusives...) i would guess that they will have to have to make a margin of 10-20% on the record as well to earn something with the records ( maybe more given that they will only be able to sell many of those discounted)
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VMP was selling $35 records at 40% off, gave away 10 free records to each yearly subscriber (with the referral bonus, a yearly membership in the US last year worked out to around $17 per record including shipping) and they were likely still making profit. These do not cost anywhere near $35 for VMP to produce. And stuff like Juju was even less to produce since they made them years ago before prices went up across the board with manufacturing, unless I missed a recent repress of that one.

I'd be VERY surprised if VMP is dumping these at cost to HHV for HHV to turn around and sell them for $35.
 
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