Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

Nee Lewman said:
Pauly was talking about how they hadn’t got as many refunds as they expected. I imagine given the preview, that may change.
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Interesting that they already expected refubds when their FAQ states:
If you wish to cancel your membership, we are making a temporary exception to our mid-term cancellation policy. Starting Jan 27 (when the Swap window opens), if you wish to cancel your membership and get a pro-rated refund (either for store credit or back to your original payment method), please email info@vinylmeplease.com, and we’ll help you. Mid-term cancellation requests made after Feb 15 will not be eligible for this exception.
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Yes VMP were clear that refunds would be managed as part of this process. I think that this is what they need to contract, stabilise and think about what the reality of the market means for them (lots of competition, harder to get the presses they want etc).

I’m one of the international crew being fired as a customer this month. I’ll miss it after about 5 or so years.

The relentless negativity and cynicism around VMP is noteworthy though. The comments on this thread this past week have been off putting. Everything is a sign of the company’s impending doom… who can one-up the previous comment on how some update or outcome elsewhere is another nail in the coffin or another harbinger of doom.

I like the company. I’d like to see them get through this obviously difficult period. Sure. They might not. But I hope that they do.

And I’m looking forward to Tender Buttons. Another record that is new to me that they’re introducing me to. Dreams was my first. Tender Buttons my last.
 
December_boy said:
Yes VMP were clear that refunds would be managed as part of this process. I think that this is what they need to contract, stabilise and think about what the reality of the market means for them (lots of competition, harder to get the presses they want etc).

I’m one of the international crew being fired as a customer this month. I’ll miss it after about 5 or so years.

The relentless negativity and cynicism around VMP is noteworthy though. The comments on this thread this past week have been off putting. Everything is a sign of the company’s impending doom… who can one-up the previous comment on how some update or outcome elsewhere is another nail in the coffin or another harbinger of doom.

I like the company. I’d like to see them get through this obviously difficult period. Sure. They might not. But I hope that they do.

And I’m looking forward to Tender Buttons. Another record that is new to me that they’re introducing me to. Dreams was my first. Tender Buttons my last.
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I think they have just managed to alienate their most loyal fan base yet again. The new system is worse for longer term subscribers. The loyalty program they promised never came. Raised prices while making the service worse.

I hope they make it through because they have done a lot of cool releases. I’m just not so sure they have a ton of time left…or if they do make it, they will just be a shell of what they once were.
 
December_boy said:
Yes VMP were clear that refunds would be managed as part of this process. I think that this is what they need to contract, stabilise and think about what the reality of the market means for them (lots of competition, harder to get the presses they want etc).

I’m one of the international crew being fired as a customer this month. I’ll miss it after about 5 or so years.

The relentless negativity and cynicism around VMP is noteworthy though. The comments on this thread this past week have been off putting. Everything is a sign of the company’s impending doom… who can one-up the previous comment on how some update or outcome elsewhere is another nail in the coffin or another harbinger of doom.

I like the company. I’d like to see them get through this obviously difficult period. Sure. They might not. But I hope that they do.

And I’m looking forward to Tender Buttons. Another record that is new to me that they’re introducing me to. Dreams was my first. Tender Buttons my last.
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I think the key though is that most of us here used to be on the old VMP forum. With the way they shuttered the old forum on short notice, a lot of people felt disrespected and some even directly insulted by staff.

Then there’s the fact that the issues they’re having now are the same issues that started to crop up when they started growing. But, instead of listening to feedback from their most loyal customers at the time, they quickly closed off that feedback channel and went full steam ahead with customer-unfriendly practices that are coming back to bite them now.

I guess with these two factors, it’s hard not to have a little schadenfreude here. I don’t think people are typically cynical and negative around these parts (especially compared to the internet on the whole) - that’s a big reason why I come to this forum everyday.
 
A lot of us also got fucked by other services who followed this pattern.

See BandBox, Album Circle, Turntable Kitchen, etc.

VMP was the biggest and best (in some ways) for years, but it doesn't change the fact that their moves are a result of their own greed and mismanagement. They can do whatever and so can we. It's a business that doesn't care about pissing off large chunks of it's formerly loyal customer base who kept buying from them despite all their idiocy. They reap what they sew.

I don't feel bad shitting on a company that had to replace nearly every other product they sold me over several years because of poor QC, rude ass CEOs, and moronic shipping practices. I'm not glad they're circling the drain, but I don't feel bad for them either.
 
I mean it’s pretty much one of the most idiotic “fixes” I’ve ever seen. “Swaps make our business model hard.” So they leaned into it when there are lots of things that point to a struggling company (including, and this can’t be overstated, statements from staff saying that things are tough there).
 
December_boy said:
Yes VMP were clear that refunds would be managed as part of this process. I think that this is what they need to contract, stabilise and think about what the reality of the market means for them (lots of competition, harder to get the presses they want etc).

I’m one of the international crew being fired as a customer this month. I’ll miss it after about 5 or so years.

The relentless negativity and cynicism around VMP is noteworthy though. The comments on this thread this past week have been off putting. Everything is a sign of the company’s impending doom… who can one-up the previous comment on how some update or outcome elsewhere is another nail in the coffin or another harbinger of doom.

I like the company. I’d like to see them get through this obviously difficult period. Sure. They might not. But I hope that they do.

And I’m looking forward to Tender Buttons. Another record that is new to me that they’re introducing me to. Dreams was my first. Tender Buttons my last.
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I would say as to the negativity that there is a little bit of schadenfreude to it based off of how VMP has treated its loyal customer base over the years (I don’t need to go into this forum’s origin story).

But more importantly, I think the perspective that a lot of us have is important in terms of other services folding and business practices, because the optimism I’ve seen some have about VMP and their commercial speak is really hard to believe to be honest. They’re doing the same things that other services did before they went under and screwed their customers over. And I also don’t want people on this board to be holding the bag when this goes under. Particularly those awaiting expensive preorders that have been outstanding for over a year. Not saying it is a guarantee to happen for sure or that I even want it to (which I don’t, I thoroughly enjoyed the service at its best), but caution is warranted for sure.
 
December_boy said:
Yes VMP were clear that refunds would be managed as part of this process. I think that this is what they need to contract, stabilise and think about what the reality of the market means for them (lots of competition, harder to get the presses they want etc).

I’m one of the international crew being fired as a customer this month. I’ll miss it after about 5 or so years.

The relentless negativity and cynicism around VMP is noteworthy though. The comments on this thread this past week have been off putting. Everything is a sign of the company’s impending doom… who can one-up the previous comment on how some update or outcome elsewhere is another nail in the coffin or another harbinger of doom.

I like the company. I’d like to see them get through this obviously difficult period. Sure. They might not. But I hope that they do.

And I’m looking forward to Tender Buttons. Another record that is new to me that they’re introducing me to. Dreams was my first. Tender Buttons my last.
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I hope you (And all the other international VMPers for that matter) continue hanging around N&G even though the VMP is no longer available for you.

Broadcast is fantastic. if you are looking for new music suggestions there are plenty awesome people on here that would be happy to help you discover outstanding stuff that you might be unfamiliar with. I have been turned on to a ton of great stuff just seeing others here discussing and posting stuff.
 
I actually think VMP will survive this, though they will be a quite different by the end of 2025. I think they will become a membership version of Bullmoose/Newbury/Zia, just offering exclusive colourways.

I think they will have 2 ROTM streams. Classic Essentials which will be any album released before 2000. And Modern Essentials which will be anything released after 2000. There will be no swapping between streams and especially no swapping for credit. You might be able to swap for an older Classic or Modern title but still in your stream. Anything else you would have to buy.

Anthologies are gone and so will anything that hints at 'audiophile'. People who buy audiophile are too picky and nit-picky.

Your monthly membership will get you your ROTM and a cheaper price for other exclusives, but those will just be different coloured pressings, not true exclusives.

Just my 2 cents
 
jamieanderson1968 said:
I actually think VMP will survive this, though they will be a quite different by the end of 2025. I think they will become a membership version of Bullmoose/Newbury/Zia, just offering exclusive colourways.

I think they will have 2 ROTM streams. Classic Essentials which will be any album released before 2000. And Modern Essentials which will be anything released after 2000. There will be no swapping between streams and especially no swapping for credit. You might be able to swap for an older Classic or Modern title but still in your stream. Anything else you would have to buy.

Anthologies are gone and so will anything that hints at 'audiophile'. People who buy audiophile are too picky and nit-picky.

Your monthly membership will get you your ROTM and a cheaper price for other exclusives, but those will just be different coloured pressings, not true exclusives.

Just my 2 cents
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Well it’s a good thing they did the opposite of all this to start the movement there. lol.
 
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