Vinyl Me Please (store, exclusives, swaps, etc)

I think that there’s very little sympathy towards storf here. I don’t think he’s all bad but his attitude towards customers of his own company stinks and I always found his manner on the other place to be superior and touchy. His levels of snark and touchiness appear to have been dialled up some on reddit.

As for VMP, I don’t actually care one way or the other It’s just funny watching the problems of their own creation coming back to roost. We’ve been saying all this stuff about them for at least 12-18 months now, it’s nothing new and it keeps getting worse.

It's their occasionally well done exclusives that are the only thing keeping me around. As a company they are a medical waste dumpster fire 🔥🔥🔥
 
From my perspective, you can actually be one most negative people on this forum, while, most likely, viewing yourself as the exact opposite. Perspective is relative. I've felt it for a long time and I'm going to say it whether it gets backlash or not, because this is tiring.

When they eliminated the old place, you pretty much blamed the very people who gave you a new community, rather than the company who attempted to set the building on fire with everyone still in it. During the whole process of them basically telling us to go fuck ourselves, you defended them, while simultaneously criticizing members, as if it was our faults. The one amazing thing about the way that went down was that it united the majority of us together, because, for most of us, there was finally no more denying VMP's actions. There was no more benefit of the doubt. And believe me, we have ALL given it to them at one point or another. So, when Needles & Grooves started, the whole fact that it was manifested by us being united was like a miracle. It was a positive thing. It was lemonade. Almost everyone came over here happy. Positive. Every comment that I saw was optimistic and happy. We felt good about ourselves. I read comments about how great this place felt and how much lighter it all was here. Even the color scheme felt less like we were trapped in a dungeon. I have a lot of love for the folks who put this platform together without "more time" to transition. It was beautiful.

THE ONLY negative comments that I saw were from you and that's why they stood out and stuck with me. Your first status update was about how you hoped that everyone wasn't going to be negative over here. Your first post on the introduction thread was also about how you miss the old place and hoped everyone wasn't going to be negative, like they've been. You floated around like a dark cloud with that shit, accusing everyone else who was whistling while they rebuilt the place as being the ones who brought that here. VMP got rid of the forum! They moved to reddit and now a completely different batch of people are pissed over there, who were actually defending them and attacking forum members when they first got there. They've caught on now that it's happening to them. Stop victim blaming people. You've said a lot of shit that just feels like you're yelling at your mom, because your dad left. "YOU DROVE HIM AWAY!!!!" If you're happy, then be happy, but stop trying to stifle and suffocate the feelings of others who deserve to be validated. Don't respond to it if you don't agree, but people have a right to express their frustrations. The old forum was eliminated, because they didn't want people to speak out or validate each other. I'm pretty sure that this place is "supposed to" offer something different than that.
i dont know how to respond

you are right

i can't really say anything to make it better or not seem condescending
 
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Anyone else think it's insane VMP is talking about getting in contact with these overshipped people like they're gonna have to send them back? It's VMPs fault, they should pay to repress more to cover their fuck up or something. Not make these people pack and ship 20 records.

What happened?...Another VMP mess? Its actually become difficult keeping track of them alll.
 
Um you realize why this place exists right
Yes, but I’m not sure at how you want me to look at it. Because of the amazing, dedicated people who wanted to build this great community or because of VMP taking down the VMP forum?

I love Needles&Grooves ❤️

But are we still very upset at VMP for taking down the old VMP forum with late notice and for not being real about it? I mean, it was really sad and pretty dishonest, but I don’t know if I’m being too lenient with VMP in regards to that?
 
Crikeys...this one dips lower than 'What would you do with more timegate'

Off the back of the migration, half the November packages not going out before it and after it them only being able to fulfill them by 500 a day, some people’s subs not showing properly, some people not being able to swap, PayPal not migrating properly, the nuking of one month sub even for the grandfathered members, the shitty new one move only in the swaps and probably more stuff too. It’s not been a good 10 days for them...
 
i dont even support what VMP is doing right now.. the only reason i haven't completely refunded and cancelled is because im stuck in routine and dont want to have wasted 27-51 dollars on something i dont use

It's a tough situation. Like most things in life, you should just use it if and how it benefits you. You don't have to explain yourself if you choose to stay, and you don't have to explain yourself if you decide that you don't want to. It's shitty. You do have a community of people here, that care, either way. I actually believe that it's fairly supportive. Everyone is just making whatever choices they need to, depending on their own circumstances. Also, these are just records.

Different people get different things from them. Some like the pressings. Some liked the pricing, but that's gone to shit. That's actually what continues to happen to a lot of members, the reasons that they are members continue to vanish. Flexibility, swaps, the ability to go month to month... these were reasons to be a member for a lot of people. Those reasons are gone. If your reasons are gone and it's just routine, maybe you should bounce. If they aren't, then you just have to weight the benefits. The pros and the cons. I talk shit, but I still bought Idler Wheel. Who knows if I'm going to fucking get it, though.

One thing that was discussed when we migrated over here was that a lot of people use(d) VMP for the curation. What you might notice, however, is that a lot of the "curation" was just them doing color variants of Mr Bongo and Now Again releases. I believe that, a lot of those who chose to leave the company then, have chosen to utilize the community here, whether via the pre-order thread or genre specific threads, to engage, get/give recommendations, join discussions, etc. A lot of people are taking that money that budget that they used to give to VMP and spending it elsewhere.

I understand that the whole thing can be tricky. As long as you feel in control, that's all that matters. Don't let yourself feel overwhelmed or caught in anything. That being said, if you are getting jacked around, you have a right to speak up and ask for what you're paying for. Simple things like access to your own account and your orders arriving
 
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What would you do with more copies?
 
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