Your Fave is Problematic

gaporter said:
Catching up on the convo about Ryan Adams + Morrissey over in the VMP thread got me thinking but it seems the conversation has largely shifted away from that and so I think it's best to post this here where less people will see it but where it will be more appropriate.

I feel very guilty and ashamed that I still find myself listening to Crystal Castles. I don't put them on nearly as much as I used to these days for obvious reasons, but their first two albums left a huge impact on me and I find it very difficult to cut them out completely. I try to justify it to myself by thinking about how just because one half of the duo is a massive shitbag doesn't mean the other half who deserves the support should be brought down with him. But then I realize Alice herself would probably tell me how full of shit that reasoning is. It's just tough for art that helped shape you to be sullied like that and it just leaves you feeling shitty and stupid for not being able to turn your back on it like you wish you could.

I just hope for the day Alice Glass puts out a debut album of her own, I will be the first in line to order it and support her without having to support the dickwad of a leech that terrorized her for years.
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Who would have guessed, more women coming forward to expose the POS creep? ugh. it makes me sick.
 
One of my favorite bands. Got big in the Cincy scene and beyond as I started going to shows. The first band my wife and I saw together.

I actually had a thought that this would happen after the lead singer of the Griswolds was ousted earlier this year.

 
This is a disappointment:

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Ariel Pink & John Maus Attended Trump’s Rally In Washington

Yesterday, Donald Trump directly incited the crowd at his Washington rally to storm the Capitol. Two of the people at Trump’s rally were Ariel Pink and John Maus. Twitter users noticed that Pink and Maus had posed for a hotel-room selfie with Alex Lee Moyer, director of the incel-sympathizing...
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Apparently Ariel Pink's already on the record as a Trump supporter; Maus is a bit out of left field for me.
 
scotthilk said:
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Evan Rachel Wood and Others Make Allegations of Abuse Against Marilyn Manson

Update: Manson responds on Instagram, calling accusations “horrible distortions of reality.” His record label drops him. Rose McGowan speaks out in support of the accusers.
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(He is not my fav or even being close to it. Just saw this article and thought I'd share)
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I'm glad she and others actually named him this time. From what she's said in the past, I think most had already put 2 + 2 together years ago, but obviously it's empowering in a different way to be able to explicitly name him.
 
kvetcha said:
I do not like how this Reply All implosion went down.
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Yeah; it feels like we don't quite have the full picture. However, I'm wont to believe the victims first, and (not to diminish what happened), the accusations sound super familiar to the media industry and the way the higher-ups can tend to internalize a clique-y mean-girls attitude towards the lower-downs. It doesn't surprise me that the show was patting itself on the back for promoting POC to producer and on-air roles, while the makeup of the company in less visible areas was pretty whitewashed.

All of this isn't unique to that company or industry, unfortunately. I think the fact that they were doing a multi-part series on a similarly toxic work environment really turned up the heat, since it comes across as severely hypocritical.

Either way, PJ and Sruthi still work for Gimlet, Reply All will still exist (seemingly), and they're basically going to sit and wait for us to forget about this.
 
It’s just deeply weird to me they’d essentially deep-six their biggest show AND cancel a fascinating miniseries run halfway through not because the series was inaccurate or untruthful, but because the person reporting it has been judged...not enough of an ally?

I dunno, it doesn’t feel right. I am bothered.
 
kvetcha said:
It’s just deeply weird to me they’d essentially deep-six their biggest show AND cancel a fascinating miniseries run halfway through not because the series was inaccurate or untruthful, but because the person reporting it has been judged...not enough of an ally?

I dunno, it doesn’t feel right. I am bothered.
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Totally. I think the idea of finishing out the series with either a disclaimer or a soul-searching epilogue would have been a thoughtful way through this. But my guess is that Sruthi, being the primary on the series, was either unable or uninterested in finishing up her work once the shit hit the fan. There may be more to this we don't know, but it purely stinks of "let's get completely off people's radars for a while and let the temperature go down."

I will say this: this is pure opinion, but the series itself sat a little weird with me; in a few of the interviews, Sruthi pushes subjects to be more emotional and upset by what happened, like she's trying to pump up the personal/emotional angle of a dysfunctional workplace. I know interviewers do that, prod and poke until they get responses that suit their needs, but Sruthi left in so many sections where she's basically coaching her subjects into making the story more emotional.
 
Bull Shannon said:
Totally. I think the idea of finishing out the series with either a disclaimer or a soul-searching epilogue would have been a thoughtful way through this. But my guess is that Sruthi, being the primary on the series, was either unable or uninterested in finishing up her work once the shit hit the fan. There may be more to this we don't know, but it purely stinks of "let's get completely off people's radars for a while and let the temperature go down."

I will say this: this is pure opinion, but the series itself sat a little weird with me; in a few of the interviews, Sruthi pushes subjects to be more emotional and upset by what happened, like she's trying to pump up the personal/emotional angle of a dysfunctional workplace. I know interviewers do that, prod and poke until they get responses that suit their needs, but Sruthi left in so many sections where she's basically coaching her subjects into making the story more emotional.
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Yeah, I definitely picked up on that too. The story was fascinating nevertheless.

Gonna miss the Alex/PJ dynamic a lot.
 
Middleditch was exceptionally open about his lifestyle and open marriage to the point that his wife filed for divorce shortly after his public interview about it. I'm certainly sad to see it as Middleditch and Schwartz was great but honestly there was some smoke there too.
 
He has been discussed in comedy performer private groups as a person to avoid and, a few weeks ago, one of the goth club members referenced in the LA Times article (or a friend?) went public with it via TikTok. It seemed like the reaction was minimal and that he’d get a “get out of accountability free” card but perhaps it just took some time for the LA Times article to be put together. Alice Wetterlund who was an actor in Silicon Valley tweeted about how toxic the whole male cast was years ago and she tweeted about it again yesterday, affirming to fans that their sweetheart comedy nerd heroes on the show, even ones not named TJ Miller, aren’t very good dudes.
 
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