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I mean also, these things are all tested out of the plant to being within like 0.1% accuracy. I don't really trust my phone's accelerometer over what they did out of the plant. It's far more likely my phone isn't being accurate vs how the table was set.
 
Mather said:
No it's not actually, the big thing with this stage is it's giving every instrument air to breath and almost... layers? Like everything comes in to your ear at a slightly different plane if that makes sense? So those crappy flat pressings somehow have a bit of life to them. I mean I think it's like whenever you do a stage upgrade, or cart or amp, the level of everything, bad and good goes up. It's not like the worst pressings get closer to the best pressings, but the level of how bad they are gets raised. With this thing they're now actually decent to good in some cases. And in a vacuum if you weren't comparing them to the best stuff, you'd probably think they sound pretty good. But then when you compare, yeah then they get smoked. But it's strange to hear stuff that used to be flat across the front of my speakers, now actually floating out into the room when I didn't think that was possible.
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This is why it’s so hard to know what to make of other peoples’ assessments of specific pressings. System influence is real.
 
So in my search for a dust cover for this beast I came across a design that actually uses folded lexan instead of the usual glued style. So all the sides are actually just heated and folded down from the lid to create the box. F30F7FDFEBC84C408003B4E29681F6C5.jpgAnd honestly I think it looks incredible. The owner of The Sound Choice in Ottawa is helping me out with getting it fabricated, incredibly nice guy and a pretty great online vinyl and gear store too.

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Angsty said:
Late to the VPI Classic commentary, but you can use the HW-40 manual to provide info on adjusting the tonearm - that's where I found the diagram earlier. It won't help with speed control; the Classic Signature manual will cover that.

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Actually the classic manual just says the centre groove is generally the most accurate, doesn't say anything about different speeds per groove. I tried it and it's showing the same 1.2% fast. But again, I'm more inclined to think that's more likely my phone being off rather than the table.
 
You can always give the other grooves a go to see if you hear a difference, then test with the phone. I think a 1% speed difference will likely only be audible if you are very sensitive to pitch differences, you have a LP that is correctly drilled in the center, and you have a pitch-revealing instrument recorded, such as a piano.

My Traveler is supposed to be "fast," but I'm not that sensitive to small pitch variations and have not heard anomalies.
 
Angsty said:
You can always give the other grooves a go to see if you hear a difference, then test with the phone. I think a 1% speed difference will likely only be audible if you are very sensitive to pitch differences, you have a LP that is correctly drilled in the center, and you have a pitch-revealing instrument recorded, such as a piano.

My Traveler is supposed to be "fast," but I'm not that sensitive to small pitch variations and have not heard anomalies.
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Yeah I'm honestly not too worried but I will admit, the reason I checked was that I did think some tracks sounded a bit hurried. I was actually surprised to see that they may actually be. I think I have pretty good ears, but I've never really thought I was all that sensitive to pitch. Apparently I might be. But I think it may just be that the table is so nimble and accurate that songs actually sound faster just due to the amount of detail that the tonearm/table is adding to the music. Which is kinda creating a feeling of added speed to me.
 
Mather said:
The imaging is exceptionally good but I think a lot of that is probably down to the stage, hard to tell. But the VPI tracks incredibly well, I had a couple of pretty warped discs on there and the tonearm was surfing all over the place but I didn't hear a single thing. Pops and clicks have been minimized for sure, they're still there but they're more in the background. I'm not sure if that's the table or the stage.
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Likely both. The greater headroom in the stage will reduce distortion when a pop happens. The distortion makes it more audible. The arm will also play a part when it is lower in bearing friction and arm resonances.

Reducing the gain in the phono stage can also prevent overloading the amplifier when pops occur.
 
Angsty said:
Likely both. The greater headroom in the stage will reduce distortion when a pop happens. The distortion makes it more audible. The arm will also play a part when it is lower in bearing friction and arm resonances.

Reducing the gain in the phono stage can also prevent overloading the amplifier when pops occur.
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I'm on the MM setting which is locked to 47 I believe. So I won't be adjusting the gain until I move to a MC. And honestly I cannot imagine what a MC is going to sound like because dear lord it's already better than I had expected.
 
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