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Hemotep said:
I have a question that might be a fun exercise for some, and it's a real scenario a friend is considering so not randomly pulled out of my ass.

You have $30k and you need to do two systems. The first is for a restaurant/bar that has six four-top tables. It has a roof, but walls only up halfway and it's open from the mid point up. The second is for a 600 sqft indoor room, but this one only needs speakers (I think he has the same integrated that I do, a NAD c368 and would keep that but isn't opposed to upgrading). This would be a vinyl bar of sorts just off the beach. Technically the vinyl isn't the point, it's that he's not sure about what to do with his personal collection if he buys this place. Does he sell it and go digital or make it a part of his business to justify the cost of shipping it out of the country, even if it probably won't make him any extra money... But he gets to keep his collection.
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@Mather he's also interested in a projector that he could use for movie nights and gaming.

Edit: he says he was looking at the Epson 5050UB and some by BenQ (? Is that a company?)
 
Hemotep said:
@Mather he's also interested in a projector that he could use for movie nights and gaming.

Edit: he says he was looking at the Epson 5050UB and some by BenQ (? Is that a company?)
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5050UB is excellent. If I'm him for a similar price I look at the JVC LX-NZ3. It's laser, will last 25,000+ hours and has an excellent picture. 5050 is lamp based and a much older unit, but it's still very good.

I have a BenQ 3100i as well as an Optoma UHZ50, it's laser as well and less expensive. Picture is good with some attention to properly lining it up, but BenQ units tend to get issues cropping up that manufacturers like Epson and JVC tend to avoid. I'd stick with one of those two.
 
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Mather said:
5050UB is excellent. If I'm him for a similar price I look at the JVC LX-NZ3. It's laser, will last 25,000+ hours and has an excellent picture. 5050 is lamp based and a much older unit, but it's still very good.

I have a BenQ 3100i, it's laser as well and less expensive. Picture is good with some attention to properly lining it up, but BenQ units tend to get issues cropping up that manufacturers like Epson and JVC tend to avoid. I'd stick with one of those two.
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I’d second the JVC, if only from positive personal experience over the last decade with them.
 
Mather said:
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These are pretty sick, even if the style isn't quite my thing in terms of the cabinet look...
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Definitely old school looks and designs. In the ‘50s British folks, so I’ve read, when talking about Hifi speakers of any make didn’t call them speakers they called them Tannoys, so ubiquitous the brand was. They do have a special sound all their own.
 
OMC said:
Definitely old school looks and designs. In the ‘50s British folks, so I’ve read, when talking about Hifi speakers of any make didn’t call them speakers they called them Tannoys, so ubiquitous the brand was. They do have a special sound all their own.
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A PA in a public setting, train station etcetera, would still be colloquially referred to as a tannoy.
 
Hemotep said:
I have a question that might be a fun exercise for some, and it's a real scenario a friend is considering so not randomly pulled out of my ass.

You have $30k and you need to do two systems. The first is for a restaurant/bar that has six four-top tables. It has a roof, but walls only up halfway and it's open from the mid point up. The second is for a 600 sqft indoor room, but this one only needs speakers (I think he has the same integrated that I do, a NAD c368 and would keep that but isn't opposed to upgrading). This would be a vinyl bar of sorts just off the beach. Technically the vinyl isn't the point, it's that he's not sure about what to do with his personal collection if he buys this place. Does he sell it and go digital or make it a part of his business to justify the cost of shipping it out of the country, even if it probably won't make him any extra money... But he gets to keep his collection.
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Bat/restaurant, I’m staying away from hifi and I’m talking to installers.

Unless the place is hosting live music as a main part of the experience, I think the most important part of sound in a dining area is a smooth, even volume in the seating areas. No loud spots. Everyone should be within 2db or less variance regardless of where they are sitting. That’s my hot take (and industry experience).
 
displayname said:
Bat/restaurant, I’m staying away from hifi and I’m talking to installers.

Unless the place is hosting live music as a main part of the experience, I think the most important part of sound in a dining area is a smooth, even volume in the seating areas. No loud spots. Everyone should be within 2db or less variance regardless of where they are sitting. That’s my hot take (and industry experience).
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It's kind of difficult to explain, but that isn't a concern and professional installers are not an option given the location. It's more for him than the business, and business concerns aren't really influencing his decision. This is more of a laid back retirement kind of thing than anything fast paced and busy.
 
Mather said:
Harbeth Super HL5Plus XD in rosewood
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There's actually a few of these around used locally, Cherry as well. Only thing is I've read that some people find them a bit lacking for rock and electronic music, which.... I play a lot of rock. But damn are they pretty.
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Hey, try the Fortes. Go on. See what happens. Try 'em. You know you want to. C'mon man, try 'em. Nothin'll happen, just try 'em.

 
kvetcha said:
Hey, try the Fortes. Go on. See what happens. Try 'em. You know you want to. C'mon man, try 'em. Nothin'll happen, just try 'em.

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Honestly they're the most likely direction I'll go, just need a few used or open box ones to pop up locally. I've always wanted to hear the horns in with my rig. But I'll keep my eyes open, the Montreal Audiofest just happened this past weekend so a lot of show demos will likely pop up this week.
 
DownIsTheNewUp said:
My dad thinks I need more power for these speakers long term. Especially when I ad the sub. Somebody else here mentioned the same thing.

The Kefs I got are notoriously power hungry for bookshelf speakers and I'm noticing I need about +10 decibels for the same volume that I did with the B&Ws.

I'm not in a rush though. Thinking end of year for the sub and on the fence as to whether the amp upgrade is actually necessary. Though having bluetooth capabilities when I move from 3.0 to 5.1 would be nice. And I could, in theory, do the same thing I did when my turntables where I sell off the receiver to close to the whole sale price I paid for it if I upgrade quickly enough.
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Do you need to update the processor or could you just add something like an Emotiva Basx five channel amp to take care of the incresed power needs?
 
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