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I'm making a giant assumption here but pretty confident that they're all being pressed from the same plates so they'll all be the same quality. If anything, the color used on the vmp version may degrade the audio quality slightly more than the denzel version.
Seems right on message.

Personally, I'm not interested. The Miami colors are cool but if I'm choosing between places to spend my $ VMP is at the bottom of the list.

VMP keeps using the term "Exclusive" very loosely

Yea it's 100% the U colors making me go in on the VMP version. That and the limited to 1000 aspect. Denzel fans will eat this up on Discogs (not my plan but definitely has high resale value) I imagine this will be listed for 60-65 dollars by Sunday (for pre-order)
 
Yea it's 100% the U colors making me go in on the VMP version. That and the limited to 1000 aspect. Denzel fans will eat this up on Discogs (not my plan but definitely has high resale value) I imagine this will be listed for 60-65 dollars by Sunday (for pre-order)

It will be the version EVERYONE will always want forever.
It will sky rocket in value for sure.

This is another reason it well sell out (cause of scum resellers)
 
I dunno, this new Denzel stuff is pretty good, but none of his shit has hit me like the '13' & '32 Zel' EP's. Those 2 are his shining gems for me.

I really wish there was a way that they could release the first 3 Denzel albums when he was doing all the Raider Klan shit. Those are raw as fuck.
 
You're probably correct.

I don't think about any of that when I buy a record. It's just for me to listen to and I don't expect to sell it to anybody ever. Sound quality over aesthetics. VMP is the opposite kind-of place.

That's not to say aesthetics don't matter. I read the liner notes. I like when the color of the vinyl matches the cover art or has something personal to do with artists (as in the Miami colors) but none of that is enough for me to support a place that jacked-up their prices to create another false market, disrespected their most loyal supporters and customers, and clearly has no intention of rightig the logistics and operations wrongs that frustrate the people that pay them. All in the name of quieting dissent.

That's not hip-hop. That's Reganomics - profits over people.


Yea same it's definitely not my plan to sell it. I just imagine the demand to be high especially since it's the same mastering, the Miami colors, and overall cheaper than the others once you factor in tax and shipping! If this was over priced I would of passed for sure. The price, the colors, and the possible alternate cover mentioned, take the cake for me
 
Dude @Clint Howard after our conversation about rap & drug dealer/criminal connections I went down a ridiculously deep rabbit hole of the major black dealers and hitmen. Some truly terrifying, but highly interesting history. The 2 that struck me the most, and I had never heard of before were Frank Matthews, and Wayne Perry.

Matthews was super early in the game, like pushing kilos of heroin in the mid-60's. He started in Durham, NC. Then moved to the east-coast where he started runnin numbers, and eventually got in with the italian & jewish heroin connects. Amazingly the dude was able to cut out the middle men and get straight to the source, which at that time was The French Connection. He would take flights down to South America and pick up as much shit as they could carry and this shit was 100% pure so they could cut it 10 to 1 if not more, and turn a kilo into 10 kilos. Long story short, in the police field he is widely considered to be the most successful and prolific heroin dealer to ever do it. There are interviews with cops who laugh at the idea that Frank Lucas was anywhere close to Frank Matthews. There's an interview out there with one of his old goons who said he owed Matthews a million dollars, and couldn't get in touch with him for a while about it. Finally tracked him down and Matthews just told him, "If you broke, keep it." He got pinched eventually, and was smart enough to realize they were going to seek a life sentence on him. He paid his bail, which at that point in time was the highest bail ever (I think it was $25 Million), and then he left the country to never be seen again. Most of the police involved believe that he is in fact alive somewhere, and there have been reports of him being in South America and Africa. They also claim he may have gotten extensive plastic surgery. Insane shit.


Wayne Perry though is one of the most feared killers to ever touch this earth. Based out of D.C. he was known for being down to catch a body any time, any place, any way; and also for being extremely loyal. During one of his many early stints in prison he needed 10 grand to post bail, but none of the dealers would help him out cause they were all terrified of dude and felt like it was safer t o have him in prison then anything else. The only one that would help him was Alpo Martinez, a fairly well known dealer/snitch that came to D.C. from Harlem and had an extremely hard time setting up shop due to the fact that he wasn't from the city. He knew he would have to have a heavy local hitter if we has gonna get it going, and Wayne Perry was the one. So he posted Perry's bail and earned his loyalty and went on to be his right hand man. The murders this dude committed under Alpo's behalf is just crazy and pretty fuckin' sick. He shot his common law wife in the face 8 times in broad daylight because Alpo told him he thought she was snitchin. They also took out one of D.C.'s biggest local dealers during a morning basketball game...Alpo went to shake dudes hand after the game, and while he was holding his hand Perry came up and shot dude in the face in front of a crowd of people. Never caught a charge on it. Again, like most of these stories, both of them got pinched. Alpo being a lil bitch snitched on Perry and cut a witness protection deal. He's out on the streets right now under a different name. Perry caught consecutive life sentences, and does interviews to this day. He is terrifying, but on a sick level highly respectable. He truly belives in the Death Before Dishonor code, and snitchin just ain't something that's in his book. He says he should have killed Alpo when he had the chance, and if he ever has a chance to take him out today he will.


Another good one is 50 Cent's namesake. Prolific stick-up kid out of NYC.
 
Dude @Clint Howard after our conversation about rap & drug dealer/criminal connections I went down a ridiculously deep rabbit hole of the major black dealers and hitmen. Some truly terrifying, but highly interesting history. The 2 that struck me the most, and I had never heard of before were Frank Matthews, and Wayne Perry.

Matthews was super early in the game, like pushing kilos of heroin in the mid-60's. He started in Durham, NC. Then moved to the east-coast where he started runnin numbers, and eventually got in with the italian & jewish heroin connects. Amazingly the dude was able to cut out the middle men and get straight to the source, which at that time was The French Connection. He would take flights down to South America and pick up as much shit as they could carry and this shit was 100% pure so they could cut it 10 to 1 if not more, and turn a kilo into 10 kilos. Long story short, in the police field he is widely considered to be the most successful and prolific heroin dealer to ever do it. There are interviews with cops who laugh at the idea that Frank Lucas was anywhere close to Frank Matthews. There's an interview out there with one of his old goons who said he owed Matthews a million dollars, and couldn't get in touch with him for a while about it. Finally tracked him down and Matthews just told him, "If you broke, keep it." He got pinched eventually, and was smart enough to realize they were going to seek a life sentence on him. He paid his bail, which at that point in time was the highest bail ever (I think it was $25 Million), and then he left the country to never be seen again. Most of the police involved believe that he is in fact alive somewhere, and there have been reports of him being in South America and Africa. They also claim he may have gotten extensive plastic surgery. Insane shit.


Wayne Perry though is one of the most feared killers to ever touch this earth. Based out of D.C. he was known for being down to catch a body any time, any place, any way; and also for being extremely loyal. During one of his many early stints in prison he needed 10 grand to post bail, but none of the dealers would help him out cause they were all terrified of dude and felt like it was safer t o have him in prison then anything else. The only one that would help him was Alpo Martinez, a fairly well known dealer/snitch that came to D.C. from Harlem and had an extremely hard time setting up shop due to the fact that he wasn't from the city. He knew he would have to have a heavy local hitter if we has gonna get it going, and Wayne Perry was the one. So he posted Perry's bail and earned his loyalty and went on to be his right hand man. The murders this dude committed under Alpo's behalf is just crazy and pretty fuckin' sick. He shot his common law wife in the face 8 times in broad daylight because Alpo told him he thought she was snitchin. They also took out one of D.C.'s biggest local dealers during a morning basketball game...Alpo went to shake dudes hand after the game, and while he was holding his hand Perry came up and shot dude in the face in front of a crowd of people. Never caught a charge on it. Again, like most of these stories, both of them got pinched. Alpo being a lil bitch snitched on Perry and cut a witness protection deal. He's out on the streets right now under a different name. Perry caught consecutive life sentences, and does interviews to this day. He is terrifying, but on a sick level highly respectable. He truly belives in the Death Before Dishonor code, and snitchin just ain't something that's in his book. He says he should have killed Alpo when he had the chance, and if he ever has a chance to take him out today he will.


Another good one is 50 Cent's namesake. Prolific stick-up kid out of NYC.


Hah, I seen all of those except for the 50 one but I know enough about him that I'm not sure I need to see a new video. Does it at least mention him being on the Eric B & Rakim record?
 
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