Hot Take/ Musical Confession Thread!

[yukbon]

Instead of quoting and disagreeing with personal-taste takes, I'll just offer mine and if you disagree, I -- because I am a living saint -- will let you be wrong as you go about your sauceless and tasteless day:

- ketchup is fine. the disdain that people have for it is beyond me. I don't put it on hot dogs or burgers, but I will sometimes dip a burger or fries into it. People like it, and there's a reason for it. There's like, studies and stuff.
- that said, ketcup's shining moment is in two instances: with scrambled eggs and tomato and as a sauce component (for example with ramen, or of course currywurst, or as part of a sauce like tikka masala (don't @ me until you try it, it's gangster) or BBQ).
- BBQ sauce pizza is an abomination and if you enjoy it, you are wrong and so is everyone who ever loved you.
- BBQ sauce in non-pizza contexts is wonderful -- my preference leans to mustard-y North Carolina South Carolina BBQ sauce, but there are wonderful sauces in all flavors and colors.
- yellow mustard: good on bologna and shitty hotdogs of questionable ingredients. Real meats deserve decent mustards; german is best, french and english mustards having their uses and applications.
- mayonaisse: Duke's if you must buy it, but homemade is several orders of magnitude better. It's the difference between your 3 year old niece singing a song she doesn't know the words to and hi-def audio on a system meant to play it. Please do not mention Miracle Whip or Blue Plate or whatever sugary ..... cream.... ruined your taste buds in your formative years. Those things are a hate crime and you have my condolences.

 

[wokeupnew]

my preference leans to mustard-y North Carolina BBQ sauce

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

Is South Carolina barbecue the vinegar based one? That’s my favorite, though I wouldn’t turn down a plate of any sort of regional barbecue variant, Norh Carolina, South Carolina, Memphis, St.Louis, Kansas City, Texas. I will happily enjoy them all.

 

[wokeupnew]

Is South Carolina barbecue the vinegar based one? That’s my favorite, though I wouldn’t turn down a plate of any sort of regional barbecue variant, Norh Carolina, South Carolina, Memphis, St.Louis, Kansas City, Texas. I will happily enjoy them all.

North Carolina is vinegar, South Carolina is mustard. Although I feel like I’ve seen claims that they’re both mustard ones. It’s all the Carolinas, I’m sure they share some overlap with both styles. Either way, they’re both good.

I agree, all BBQ sauce is good.

 

[dhodo]

North Carolina is vinegar, South Carolina is mustard.

That's what I've always heard. Never really seen it play out with any exclusivity in restaurants though. Both good but I prefer a spicy vinegar one personally.

 

[wmeugene]

North Carolina is vinegar, South Carolina is mustard. Although I feel like I’ve seen claims that they’re both mustard ones. It’s all the Carolinas, I’m sure they share some overlap with both styles. Either way, they’re both good.

I agree, all BBQ sauce is good.

Yes, NC is vinegar, SC is mustard. Eastern NC is whole hog, Western NC is mostly pork shoulder. Also Western NC sauce usually has a bit of ketchup/tomato in it. Cole slaw differs as well across the Carolinas.

 

[djdavedk]

yellow mustard: also acceptable on soft pretzels, if brown is unavailable.

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

yellow mustard: also acceptable on soft pretzels, if brown is unavailable.

Yeah, yellow in a pinch but I usually want some Spicy honey mustard for my soft pretzels if the opportunity presents itself.

 

[Sonicpharmacist]

Catching up on the last 10 pages of pizza talk and no one mentioned my favorite pizza chain Mod Pizza.

 

[Nee Lewman]

Is South Carolina barbecue the vinegar based one? That’s my favorite, though I wouldn’t turn down a plate of any sort of regional barbecue variant, Norh Carolina, South Carolina, Memphis, St.Louis, Kansas City, Texas. I will happily enjoy them all.

North Carolina is vinegar on the East coast, molasses and ketchup in the mountains, a mixture in the middle. South Carolina is the mustard sauce.

 

[Nee Lewman]

North Carolina is vinegar, South Carolina is mustard. Although I feel like I’ve seen claims that they’re both mustard ones. It’s all the Carolinas, I’m sure they share some overlap with both styles. Either way, they’re both good.

I agree, all BBQ sauce is good.

I have never seen a mustard sauce claimed as an NC sauce. I’ve been to 70% of the joints in NC.

 

[wokeupnew]

I have never seen a mustard sauce claimed as an NC sauce. I’ve been to 70% of the joints in NC.

Some bbq places I’ve been to not in the south will have Carolina sauce as mustard based. Idk if they’re specifically referring to north or south but that’s what I’ve seen.

 

[Bohnjaggs]

I don’t even put ketchup on fries.

I don't either

 

[Bohnjaggs]

Ketchup is only acceptable with a certain kind of French fry, otherwise it goes in the trash.

Is it crinkle cut?

 

[djdavedk]

I prefer less sweet ketchup, but I will dip fries in it, especially if there's real mayo nearby for a 1-2 combo.

HOWEVER, if malt vinegar is available, then that's my preferred condiment, and my fries get drenched in it.

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

Is it crinkle cut?

I hate crinkle cut fries. I want them crispy or what’s the point.

 

[Nee Lewman]

I hate crinkle cut fries. I want them crispy or what’s the point.

The whole point of crinkle cut is to have more surface area for crunch.


And to wade into the ketchup debate… it’s okay. Much like @yukbon said about mayo, if you can make it or get fresh made ketchup, it is a completely different thing.

 

[TenderLovingKiller®]

The whole point of crinkle cut is to have more surface area for crunch.

The extra room on the outside of a crinkle cut fry isn’t the problem, it’s the extra real estate for soft potato on the inside that I don’t care for.

 

[Yer Ol' Uncle D]

The extra room on the outside of a crinkle cut fry isn’t the problem, it’s the extra real estate for soft potato on the inside that I don’t care for.

These sound like the words of a true pork rind man - all crunch, all the time.

I think the best crinkle cuts I've found from a hot and crispy standpoint are at Zabby's.

 

[Hemotep]

The whole point of crinkle cut is to have more surface area for crunch.


And to wade into the ketchup debate… it’s okay. Much like @yukbon said about mayo, if you can make it or get fresh made ketchup, it is a completely different thing.

Homemade ketchup is a different beast. There's this place in Denver called Biker Jim's that is insanely good and makes a curry ketchup for fries. I definitely ate a fair amount of that despite my dislike in general. But that's because it wasn't very sweet.

I did think of one thing I like ketchup on. A gooey Velveeta grilled cheese sandwich. Haven't eaten one in probably twenty or more years, but dipping that in ketchup is a good memory.