Hot Take/ Musical Confession Thread!

Lee Newman said:
I don't understand how any one who has more than like 500 records finds anything if they aren't sorted by an alphabetical method, whether library or cogs.
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Most of my 1300 records are not in alphabetical order (I only use alphabetical with my jazz albums). Every time I move things around, I have to take the time (think hours) to memorize where everything is. I call it “spending time with my records.”

Hemotep said:
Didn't someone on here organize it by label?

I also like the idea of trying it by release date.
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I have a separate cube for my ECM albums. I also keep most of my BNs together. I’ve recently separated my purchased-new from my purchased-used records.
 
Ok I got one, and based on the vitriol I've seen in the other direction, it's going to make me some enemies:

I think it's totally fine to film with your phone at shows.

I've seen so much writing and heard a couple podcast rants calling it out, mainly with the snide remark "nobody wants to see your crappy concert video." Well, I'm not doing it for other people; I may post a choice snippet to my ig story for a bit of "I was there," but mostly I take a couple 10-30 second snippets or a flurry of quick snapshots so I can remind myself later on. It's a nice thing to see when I'm going through my album.

And I know a lot of the vitriol is going towards people who hold their phones way up so they block sightlines and record entire songs, even full sets. Well, I'm over here filming, keeping my elbows tucked in and holding my phone like three inches away from my face so I should basically be the only person who can see the screen; and, again, it's back in my pocket before half a minute's up.

I know social media's had an odious effect on the way we behave in public, and I know plenty of people who let "how will this look on the gram" supersede "am I having fun right now?", but I think it's just as odious to see a person filming or taking pictures, and assume they're not doing it for their own benefit and failing to live in the moment.
 
Bull Shannon said:
Ok I got one, and based on the vitriol I've seen in the other direction, it's going to make me some enemies:

I think it's totally fine to film with your phone at shows.

I've seen so much writing and heard a couple podcast rants calling it out, mainly with the snide remark "nobody wants to see your crappy concert video." Well, I'm not doing it for other people; I may post a choice snippet to my ig story for a bit of "I was there," but mostly I take a couple 10-30 second snippets or a flurry of quick snapshots so I can remind myself later on. It's a nice thing to see when I'm going through my album.

And I know a lot of the vitriol is going towards people who hold their phones way up so they block sightlines and record entire songs, even full sets. Well, I'm over here filming, keeping my elbows tucked in and holding my phone like three inches away from my face so I should basically be the only person who can see the screen; and, again, it's back in my pocket before half a minute's up.

I know social media's had an odious effect on the way we behave in public, and I know plenty of people who let "how will this look on the gram" supersede "am I having fun right now?", but I think it's just as odious to see a person filming or taking pictures, and assume they're not doing it for their own benefit and failing to live in the moment.
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this is me as well, and just like you I do my very best to make my filming/photos be as non intrusive as possible.
 
Bull Shannon said:
Ok I got one, and based on the vitriol I've seen in the other direction, it's going to make me some enemies:

I think it's totally fine to film with your phone at shows.

I've seen so much writing and heard a couple podcast rants calling it out, mainly with the snide remark "nobody wants to see your crappy concert video." Well, I'm not doing it for other people; I may post a choice snippet to my ig story for a bit of "I was there," but mostly I take a couple 10-30 second snippets or a flurry of quick snapshots so I can remind myself later on. It's a nice thing to see when I'm going through my album.

And I know a lot of the vitriol is going towards people who hold their phones way up so they block sightlines and record entire songs, even full sets. Well, I'm over here filming, keeping my elbows tucked in and holding my phone like three inches away from my face so I should basically be the only person who can see the screen; and, again, it's back in my pocket before half a minute's up.

I know social media's had an odious effect on the way we behave in public, and I know plenty of people who let "how will this look on the gram" supersede "am I having fun right now?", but I think it's just as odious to see a person filming or taking pictures, and assume they're not doing it for their own benefit and failing to live in the moment.
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Tillman said:
this is me as well, and just like you I do my very best to make my filming/photos be as non intrusive as possible.
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I have mixed and nebulous feelings on this one...

As a performer, it's never bothered me if people are taking photos or videos with their phones while I'm performing. In fact, some of my favourite photos of myself performing (or of myself at all) have come from people's phones at events where I'm performing.

As an audience member, when people are being generally aware/respectful/discreet(ish) it doesn't overly bother me in most cases. But for some particular shows/events even that can feel intrusive/obtrusive - but that's very atmosphere dependant (ie: for a very quiet very dark show in an intimate environment I would find it annoying, but at a festival or a rock show... not so much). The people that are unaware or just outright ignorant about blocking sightlines and keeping it up for extended/near-infinite portions of the show, though... they can kick rocks! And, sadly, they're the ones that ruin it for everybody else. Like bad parents lead people to dislike children or bad dog owners lead people to hate dogs. People suck, and that sucks for people who suck less, or don't suck at all!

All that said, I have zero issues with it being performer discretion also. If they have a show where they want no phones out in the audience, I think that's absolutely their prerogative and that should be respected AND advertised so people know in advance. If a performer wants to create some sort of group journey or doesn't want new and otherwise unheard or unseen material getting leaked out into the world in a way that isn't the way they want it to... I fully support them making and being able to uphold those choices.
 
Bull Shannon said:
Ok I got one, and based on the vitriol I've seen in the other direction, it's going to make me some enemies:

I think it's totally fine to film with your phone at shows.

I've seen so much writing and heard a couple podcast rants calling it out, mainly with the snide remark "nobody wants to see your crappy concert video." Well, I'm not doing it for other people; I may post a choice snippet to my ig story for a bit of "I was there," but mostly I take a couple 10-30 second snippets or a flurry of quick snapshots so I can remind myself later on. It's a nice thing to see when I'm going through my album.

And I know a lot of the vitriol is going towards people who hold their phones way up so they block sightlines and record entire songs, even full sets. Well, I'm over here filming, keeping my elbows tucked in and holding my phone like three inches away from my face so I should basically be the only person who can see the screen; and, again, it's back in my pocket before half a minute's up.

I know social media's had an odious effect on the way we behave in public, and I know plenty of people who let "how will this look on the gram" supersede "am I having fun right now?", but I think it's just as odious to see a person filming or taking pictures, and assume they're not doing it for their own benefit and failing to live in the moment.
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I’ve said before as long as you are not making it more difficult for me to see the show, I don’t care what you’re doing on your phone during a show. I’ll usually snap a few photos and then tuck my phone away. I think the bigger issue is social etiquette has been breaking down the over the past 5 or 10 years and now people don’t give a shit about anybody else’s experience outside of their own. I will say, that most fan shot concert footage is fucking terrible but every once and awhile it documents a really cool moment and I am thankful that someone too the time and effort to watch an entire performance through their phones camera lens…it won’t ever be me doing it, but I appreciate it nonetheless.
 
Bull Shannon said:
Ok I got one, and based on the vitriol I've seen in the other direction, it's going to make me some enemies:

I think it's totally fine to film with your phone at shows.

I've seen so much writing and heard a couple podcast rants calling it out, mainly with the snide remark "nobody wants to see your crappy concert video." Well, I'm not doing it for other people; I may post a choice snippet to my ig story for a bit of "I was there," but mostly I take a couple 10-30 second snippets or a flurry of quick snapshots so I can remind myself later on. It's a nice thing to see when I'm going through my album.

And I know a lot of the vitriol is going towards people who hold their phones way up so they block sightlines and record entire songs, even full sets. Well, I'm over here filming, keeping my elbows tucked in and holding my phone like three inches away from my face so I should basically be the only person who can see the screen; and, again, it's back in my pocket before half a minute's up.

I know social media's had an odious effect on the way we behave in public, and I know plenty of people who let "how will this look on the gram" supersede "am I having fun right now?", but I think it's just as odious to see a person filming or taking pictures, and assume they're not doing it for their own benefit and failing to live in the moment.
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The Upcoming/Recent Shows thread would like word with you in private.
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Bull Shannon said:
Ok I got one, and based on the vitriol I've seen in the other direction, it's going to make me some enemies:

I think it's totally fine to film with your phone at shows.

I've seen so much writing and heard a couple podcast rants calling it out, mainly with the snide remark "nobody wants to see your crappy concert video." Well, I'm not doing it for other people; I may post a choice snippet to my ig story for a bit of "I was there," but mostly I take a couple 10-30 second snippets or a flurry of quick snapshots so I can remind myself later on. It's a nice thing to see when I'm going through my album.

And I know a lot of the vitriol is going towards people who hold their phones way up so they block sightlines and record entire songs, even full sets. Well, I'm over here filming, keeping my elbows tucked in and holding my phone like three inches away from my face so I should basically be the only person who can see the screen; and, again, it's back in my pocket before half a minute's up.

I know social media's had an odious effect on the way we behave in public, and I know plenty of people who let "how will this look on the gram" supersede "am I having fun right now?", but I think it's just as odious to see a person filming or taking pictures, and assume they're not doing it for their own benefit and failing to live in the moment.
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I get why people film stuff and I do it myself to catch my favorite songs/ favorite lines in songs but I will never understand why people film whole concerts on their phone. Low key shows I’ve seen like singer songwriter performs (Mitski, Courtney Barnett and FJM for example) people filming really don’t affect or bother me as long as I have a clear sight line and I’m tall enough where that’s never a problem. My main annoyance come from pop/dance shows and rock concerts. My main enjoyment from those shows comes from just letting myself go and dance to the music and when a whole crowd is doing that it’s magical. But when the whole crowd is standing perfectly still so they can capture the whole concert on their phone it completely kills the mood of the concert. One of my least favorite concert experiences was when I got general admission tickets to see Dua Lipa and not a single person was dancing, felt like such a waste of money and time
 
I mean I don't care if you take a video with your camera. I will take a couple of crappy photos and call it a day. I agree with @TenderLovingKiller® that show etiquette just continues to get worse. I think a lot of the outrage about filming has to do with it's easier to call out because there is proof later that you did it as opposed to proving you were a jackass who talked loudly the entire show.

I also think most of the ire is just we're all tired and angry about something and we all have a platform.
 
I can't figure a way to say this with all of what I want to say right now, but also I want to be there in the moment for a show. God Love @Yer Ol' Uncle D and I get what he is doing and where he is at with taping, but I'm there, I want to be there and in the moment. The fucker talking next to me, the fucker with his camera in my face in front of me, my own phone, all that distracts from what I am there for... Kind of why I closed my facebook and twitter account anyhow.
 
avecigrec said:
The two fuckers talking behind me for damn near the entirety of the show when I went and saw A Silver Mt. Zion after working a 13-hour shift... I still hate those two assholes and that was almost 10 years ago.
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The two assholes next to me at Nickel Creek a couple of weeks ago. The fucker who shoved his way so he and his girl could stand directly in front of me at the Turkuaz show I went to right before the pandemic. THE ENTIRE FUCKING AUDIENCE AT THE ONE CHATHAM COUNTY LINE SHOW I WENT TO.
 
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