Hot Take/ Musical Confession Thread!

supahypeag said:
With the stones, listen to Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf, and then think “instead of these black guys singing their songs, what if white people from England stole their style, made it louder, sped it up, and then sang it like crap?” That’s how to appreciate the stones.
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Couldn't you say that about pretty much all of those British bands in the beginning?
 
Slimwhit33 said:
My hot take: Kid A is one of the worst albums I’ve ever made myself listen to multiple times. I just don’t get it. It’s above me evidently. I’ve grown to accept it.
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I sort of get this. I've listened to Kid A multiple times. It's grown on me more than when I first heard it, as the first listen I gave it like a 6/10. I just think it's overhyped. I don't think it's the worst album I've re-listened to, not by a long shot, but I truly don't think it's one of the greatest albums ever released. I do enjoy it, just not as much as some other people do. Maybe I need to listen to it even more to grasp why people think it's so fantastic, but currently I've listened to the full album about 4 or 5 times and I just think it's merely great, not one of the best.
 
supahypeag said:
Probably. It’s cool they were inspired. It’s just that, unlike with say your Eric Clapton, The Stones just FEEL like more of a ripoff to me.
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Well I'll take the great Stones albums over Clapton any day but I'll cede your point for early Stones. I feel like it applies to early Who, Yardbirds, Small Faces, Pretty Things, Animals and to some extent Kinks and the Beatles. It wasn't until later in the 60s that scene really started putting their own spin on it and made some really great albums.

I feel like your criticism applies to all the earlier 60s albums but that's the first time I've ever heard anyone say that anything from say Beggars to Exile is just a rip off of Howling Wolf/ Muddy Waters. Infuenced sure. However, I think Aftermath is one of the best albums of the era (of British rock) that your criticism could apply to, so clearly we're on different wavelengths!
 
dhodo said:
Weird take. Care to expand on it?
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I don't really know how to break it down further except that Beggars sounds like a Stones' version of Blonde. Maybe it's the harmonica? The country-folksy sounds? I dunno. Part of it may be how I've been approaching my record collection/music-learnin': more or less chronologically. So I heard Blonde on Blonde for the first time a couple of months ago, then a couple of weeks later, I heard Beggars. And I was like, "well, that's similar. But worse. And I don't like Blonde on Blonde, so this is like, even more terrible. And I know that the Beach Boys, Beatles, and Stones were all influencing each other and being influenced by Dylan, but this seems excessive." (BTW, this is the Hot Take Thread, so I'm feeling a little bit more at liberty to be, like, rude about stuff, as some of the takes earlier in the thread were even more anti-Dylan/Beatles/Stones/etc. And if you need an explanation of my anti-Blonde on Blonde thing...I dunno. I don't like Dylan's voice, I don't like the harmonica, I don't like the vibe, you name it, I probably hate it. I do own Highway 61 though, and I quite like it.)

I was telling my brother the other day that in general I hate the freaking Rolling Stones....except they have like 3 of the best songs ever made.
 
supahypeag said:
I don't really know how to break it down further except that Beggars sounds like a Stones' version of Blonde. Maybe it's the harmonica? The country-folksy sounds? I dunno. Part of it may be how I've been approaching my record collection/music-learnin': more or less chronologically. So I heard Blonde on Blonde for the first time a couple of months ago, then a couple of weeks later, I heard Beggars. And I was like, "well, that's similar. But worse. And I don't like Blonde on Blonde, so this is like, even more terrible. And I know that the Beach Boys, Beatles, and Stones were all influencing each other and being influenced by Dylan, but this seems excessive." (BTW, this is the Hot Take Thread, so I'm feeling a little bit more at liberty to be, like, rude about stuff, as some of the takes earlier in the thread were even more anti-Dylan/Beatles/Stones/etc. And if you need an explanation of my anti-Blonde on Blonde thing...I dunno. I don't like Dylan's voice, I don't like the harmonica, I don't like the vibe, you name it, I probably hate it. I do own Highway 61 though, and I quite like it.)

I was telling my brother the other day that in general I hate the freaking Rolling Stones....except they have like 3 of the best songs ever made.
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Haha. I don't think you're being rude, to each their own. Next time I listen to BoB/Beggars I'll see if I can hear it. What are the 3 songs?
 
dhodo said:
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Haha. I don't think you're being rude, to each their own. Next time I listen to BoB/Beggars I'll see if I can hear it. What are the 3 songs?
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Paint It Black, Gimme Shelter, and....I'm sure there's another one ... not Sympathy for the Devil, I don't like that one...um.....I like the Sundays' version of Wild Horses (that Buffy prom scene!!), um...shoot....I'm drawing a blank!
 
Bohnjaggs said:
Since I posted about Kendrick earlier, for those who do like his music can you say exactly what you like about him because I really don't get it ...
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I was lukewarm on Kendrick. When TPAB came out I became interested because a lot of the LA jazz guys were involved. So I listened to it a little. I'll be honest, I don't listen to a lot of rap so a lot of the album went over my head. After I listened to a podcast (Dissected), that went over the album with a fine tooth comb song by song it really opened my mind. It is an amazingly complex album, courageous, and honest. It is really a story that takes you through his personal journey. People that can make art to this level do not come around often. He deserves ever ounce of praise he gets for making this album. It should go down as one of the greatest albums of the 21st century and. And I'm not one to speak in hyperbole as regards to art.
 
Dtknuckles said:
I was lukewarm on Kendrick. When TPAB came out I became interested because a lot of the LA jazz guys were involved. So I listened to it a little. I'll be honest, I don't listen to a lot of rap so a lot of the album went over my head. After I listened to a podcast (Dissected), that went over the album with a fine tooth comb song by song it really opened my mind. It is an amazingly complex album, courageous, and honest. It is really a story that takes you through his personal journey. People that can make art to this level do not come around often. He deserves ever ounce of praise he gets for making this album. It should go down as one of the greatest albums of the 21st century and. And I'm not one to speak in hyperbole as regards to art.
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I felt similarly about GKMC. I liked some singles he put out before that album, like ADHD but somehow I had missed almost everything else he did.

At first when GKMC came out I kind of wrote it off because it was closer to pop rap than most of what I liked at the time and without paying attention to most of the lyrics, some of the hooks seemed silly, like Swimming Pools. For whatever reason, the sound kept growing on me to the point that I actually started paying attention to the lyrics and concept of the album and then it blew me away.

I'm still amazed that so many people, like my sister, who liked Swimming Pools before I did, thought/ think it is a pro drinking song. Similar misinterpretations abound for that album, which is really a great reflection on and representation of growing up where he did through the lens of his more mature hindsight.
 
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mdmost said:
Try as a might, I just can't get into the Rolling Stones and Bruce Springsteen but I think I would like to. What am I doing wrong? I mean I like Sympathy For The Devil, Gimme Shelter, and You Can't Always Get What You Want but the rest just isn't approachable for me. And Bruce, maybe Born In The USA and Dancing In The Dark painted him badly in my eyes as a youth.
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Slimwhit33 said:
I’m in the same boat with the Stones. Though I continually try.

My Bruce recommendation is to listen to Darkness on the Edge of Town in its entirety.
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The answer for The Rolling Stones is easy. Go listen to Exile on Main St. that album is flawless. A top 5 record for sure. I think the biggest hit it contained was Tumbling Dice but it is rad. When I think of how rock and roll should sound at it’s down and dirtiest best. I think of Exile.
 
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dhodo said:
I felt similarly about GKMC. I liked some singles he put out before that album, like ADHD but somehow I had missed almost everything else he did.

At first when GKMC came out I kind of wrote it off because it was closer to pop rap than most of what I liked at the time and without paying attention to most of the lyrics, some of the hooks seemed silly, like Swimming Pools. For whatever reason, the sound kept growing on me to the point that I actually started paying attention to the lyrics and concept of the album and then it blew me away.

I'm still amazed that so many people, like my sister, who liked Swimming Pools before I did, thought/ think it is a pro drinking song. Similar misinterpretations abound for that album, which is really a great reflection on and representation of growing up where he did through the lens of his more mature hindsight.
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I have to listen to that album more, but you know so many albums so little time.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
The answer for The Rolling Stones is easy. Go listen to Exile on Main St. that album is flawless. A top 5 record for sure. I think the biggest hit it contained was Tumbling Dice but it is rad. When I think of how rock and roll should sound at it’s down and dirtiest best. I think of Exile.
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I'm into Sticky Fingers more.

General questions to anyone. I may be mistaken but there was a scene in a movie that used a Stones song. A girl came out in a bar and did some other worldly shaking dance and she was dressed in fringe. I didn't imagine this did I. Was it Roadhouse?
 
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