It Could Get A Bit Messi In Here - The Football Thread.

Just like many of the bands I want to see, the closest one to me is in Houston.

I was looking at the bid cities and New Orleans was rejected in the first round with San Antonio, Indy, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and some others.

Then Chicago, Minneapolis, and DC (FedEx) withdrawing leaves me with a feeling of meh for some of the choices.

Jerry World in the sprawl between Dallas and Ft. Worth being one. The Levis Stadium location is bland too. No doubt they'll show majestic aerial views of the SF skyline while the stadium sits over an hour away in Santa Clara.
 
I was looking at the bid cities and New Orleans was rejected in the first round with San Antonio, Indy, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and some others.

Then Chicago, Minneapolis, and DC (FedEx) withdrawing leaves me with a feeling of meh for some of the choices.

Jerry World in the sprawl between Dallas and Ft. Worth being one. The Levis Stadium location is bland too. No doubt they'll show majestic aerial views of the SF skyline while the stadium sits over an hour away in Santa Clara.
I'm a little bitter that the Rose Bowl didn't get a bid. I get we all need shiny and new but that's hands down the best venue in the United States for watching an outdoor event. Every seat has a great sight line and it hosted the damn Final in 1994.
 
I'm a little bitter that the Rose Bowl didn't get a bid. I get we all need shiny and new but that's hands down the best venue in the United States for watching an outdoor event. Every seat has a great sight line and it hosted the damn Final in 1994.

The Rose Bowl would have been my pick for the final as well. The setting doesn't get much better than Pasadena. Instead we'll get SoFi in Inglewood directly under the flight path at LAX.

I personally loathe Stan Kroenke. Native son of Missouri who took a giant shit all over St. Louis when the NFL let him break all the relocation rules and move the Rams back to LA. And I wasn't even a Rams fan when I lived there. 😄 Asshole wins a Super Bowl and now may add a Stanley Cup as well. Not that I'm bitter.
 
I guess some are scratching their heads as to why Las Vegas didn’t make the cut, but besides money, what are FIFA’s requirements? Infrastructure? Public transportation? Ease of access?
 
Presuming it's safe to travel in 4 years and the world is still here, likely LA, Seattle, Toronto for us where we have friends to host us.

Big change from 94' of course with co hosting (no Chicago, DC, etc). Would of loved to get to Montreal.

 
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I guess some are scratching their heads as to why Las Vegas didn’t make the cut, but besides money, what are FIFA’s requirements? Infrastructure? Public transportation? Ease of access?
Perhaps FIFA or the organizing committee had some trepidation about gambling.

Anyone see Jerry Jones pitching the final already ? I don't see it happening.
 
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I guess some are scratching their heads as to why Las Vegas didn’t make the cut, but besides money, what are FIFA’s requirements? Infrastructure? Public transportation? Ease of access?

I’m don’t think that necessarily FIFA would have vetoed Las Vegas. The requirements are pretty clear before the bidding process and the bid team would pick their venues. I can see how playing an outdoor sport in the desert in June/July might run into similar problems that caused Qatar to be moved to November?

On a wider note it stinks that the US, with no football culture, is getting its second World Cup since 1994 and Mexico is on its third whilst Britain has has had one, in fucking 1966.
 
I’d have taken one away from Texas and/or one away from the east coast to give it to Chicago and move Kansas City to Denver. But I wonder if Fifa were concerned about altitude maybe?
 
I’d have taken one away from Texas and/or one away from the east coast to give it to Chicago and move Kansas City to Denver. But I wonder if Fifa were concerned about altitude maybe?

They’re playing matches at the Azteca which is a fair bit higher so the altitude in Denver is absolutely not a consideration. More likely the bid team form the US didn’t nominate Denver because they wouldn’t make as much money from it and probably the logistics of where it is compared to other host cities.
 
They’re playing matches at the Azteca which is a fair bit higher so the altitude in Denver is absolutely not a consideration. More likely the bid team form the US didn’t nominate Denver because they wouldn’t make as much money from it and probably the logistics of where it is compared to other host cities.
I hadn't thought about that. No Chicago is definitely surprising too. Denver would have been pretty isolated and I did see rumors that Edmonton also wanted to be a part of it. Also pretty isolated. It's probably a logistics thing like you said.
 
I hadn't thought about that. No Chicago is definitely surprising too. Denver would have been pretty isolated and I did see rumors that Edmonton also wanted to be a part of it. Also pretty isolated. It's probably a logistics thing like you said.

Yeah I don’t think altitude comes into it unless someone wanted to play a game in somewhere like Cuzco or La Paz. FIFA have shown themselves to be pretty ambivalent to fans and player conditions so long as the money is rolling in. In 2014 they sent England and Italy to play games in the absurd choice of Manus which was essentially in the Amazon and humid as hell. And then Qatar. And then Russia where the cities were insanely grouped and fans and teams were flying back and forth across what is essentially a continent. More likely they didn’t see Denver having the local support plus the capacity to host that scale of event and so they didn’t think the money was there. It is a pretty small city, especially on an American scale.
 
Yeah I don’t think altitude comes into it unless someone wanted to play a game in somewhere like Cuzco or La Paz. FIFA have shown themselves to be pretty ambivalent to fans and player conditions so long as the money is rolling in. In 2014 they sent England and Italy to play games in the absurd choice of Manus which was essentially in the Amazon and humid as hell. And then Qatar. And then Russia where the cities were insanely grouped and fans and teams were flying back and forth across what is essentially a continent. More likely they didn’t see Denver having the local support plus the capacity to host that scale of event and so they didn’t think the money was there. It is a pretty small city, especially on an American scale.
Idk about that, Kansas City is even smaller population-wise, it makes even less sense. If anything you'd pick St. Louis in the same state which is a bigger metro and historically more important. Denver definitely has the capacity and facilities to host matches, they must have just not wanted to for whatever reason ($$$)
 
Idk about that, Kansas City is even smaller population-wise, it makes even less sense. If anything you'd pick St. Louis in the same state which is a bigger metro and historically more important. Denver definitely has the capacity and facilities to host matches, they must have just not wanted to for whatever reason ($$$)

Well yeah you have to make your money back. The bids aren’t cheap and FIFA take a not inconsiderable cut. Where it is doesn’t help it for sure. Would it be able to support an influx of near 10% of its population in terms of hotel beds, restaurants etc, not just the match itself (obv that depends on the nation drawn but it would be totally possible if you got an England/Scotland/Ireland/Wales).

My hope would be if Ireland qualify that they get matches in New York and Boston but absolutely avoid having the play Mexico in Florida, that was a total mismatch, the Irish team were melting! On the flip side the match against Italy in New York seemed like one big huge party with the travelling fans and the local diasporas!
 
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