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2026 co hosting is a fairly obvious make up for being screwed over in 2022 by corruption.🔪

Perhaps when England is no longer being punished by playing matches indoors with no supporters there "culture" may be considered.
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JohnnyCashFan said:
2026 co hosting is a fairly obvious make up for being screwed over in 2022 by corruption.

Perhaps when England is no longer being punished by playing matches indoors with no supporters they may be considered.
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You were awarded a World Cup to make up for corruption largely led by the bids for cash crew of CONCACAF led by Chuck Blazer and Jack Warner. That would make total FIFA logic…

Your bid was pretty much unopposed because Europe and Asia were ineligible and South America were focusing on a Argentina/Uruguay centennial bid for the next one.

The cross Britain and Ireland bid pulled itself next time because they couldn’t see any reform of FIFA voting corruption, deemed it a waste of money and decided to focus on the Euros instead.
 
Joe Mac said:
Would it be able to support an influx of near 10% of its population in terms of hotel beds, restaurants etc, not just the match itself (obv that depends on the nation drawn but it would be totally possible if you got an England/Scotland/Ireland/Wales).
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100%. I am absolutely certain most US cities would be able to support any influx of that many people. Qatar on the other hand....

Denver is a very popular vacation destination for a lot of people. There's probably at least 5%, if not more, of it's population in the city as tourists at any time of the year. There are hundreds of hotels in all of these cities and hundreds more within a reasonable distance outside the city.

I was curious if I was right about St. Louis being bigger than Kansas City, it actually is by Metro but surprisingly not by city limits. 300k vs. 500k.

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Joe Mac said:
You were awarded a World Cup to make up for corruption largely led by the bids for cash crew of CONCACAF led by Chuck Blazer and Jack Warner. That would make total FIFA logic…

Your bid was pretty much unopposed because Europe and Asia were ineligible and South America were focusing on a Argentina/Uruguay centennial bid for the next one.

The cross Britain and Ireland bid pulled itself because they couldn’t see any reform of FIFA voting corruption, deemed it a waste of money and decided to focus on the Euros instead.
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I would love a British World Cup (including Scotland) in 2030/34. Who are the other top contenders (continents ?) I would think Austrailia/New Zealand will be in contention (Women's WC next year). Hopefully I'm still around lol Free hosting all over the country, side trips, stay for the summer, etc. This fall will be the first Men's World Cup I have not attended since South Africa (4 before that).
 
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wokeupnew said:
100%. I am absolutely certain most US cities would be able to support any influx of that many people. Qatar on the other hand....

Denver is a very popular vacation destination for a lot of people. There's probably at least 5%, if not more, of it's population in the city as tourists at any time of the year. There are hundreds of hotels in all of these cities and hundreds more within a reasonable distance outside the city.

I was curious if I was right about St. Louis being bigger than Kansas City, it actually is by Metro but surprisingly not by city limits. 300k vs. 400k.

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Fair enough! I know that’s generally an ask for cities of that size unless they’re big tourist centres and/or a captial and/or in close proximity to other cities.

Metro is generally a better indicator tbf, well with urban sprawl anyway. Over here at least we really need to get better at actually living in cities.
 
wokeupnew said:
100%. I am absolutely certain most US cities would be able to support any influx of that many people. Qatar on the other hand....

Denver is a very popular vacation destination for a lot of people. There's probably at least 5%, if not more, of it's population in the city as tourists at any time of the year. There are hundreds of hotels in all of these cities and hundreds more within a reasonable distance outside the city.

I was curious if I was right about St. Louis being bigger than Kansas City, it actually is by Metro but surprisingly not by city limits. 300k vs. 500k.

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Denver must of been the final cut ? Great restaurants as well.

KC has a good soccer "culture", shopping, restaurants, museums, etc. Not much else to do really. Will be fly in/fly out for most.

St Louis only has lower league soccer, mostly unused and aging large stadium, and smaller soccer stadium etc. Without McBride there was no real prominent voice to push it ?

Anyone remember why Chicago didnt make it ? Home of US Soccer btw.
 
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I think, like everything with FIFA, it comes back to money. One interesting graphic I saw yesterday. 1994 is still the most attended World Cup of all time (despite 12 fewer games). 2026 will shatter this.

The joint bid is messy, and travel in US (for teams and for fans) could be a real disaster, but it's going to be great for FIFA.

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JohnnyCashFan said:
I would love a British World Cup (including Scotland) in 2030/34. Who are the other top contenders (continents ?) I would think Austrailia/New Zealand will be in contention (Women's WC next year). Hopefully I'm still around lol Free hosting all over the country, side trips, stay for the summer, etc. This fall will be the first Men's World Cup I have not attended since South Africa (4 before that).
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The plan had been all 5 home associations which would largely have been England + Cardiff + Dublin + Glasgow + Edinburgh + Belfast twinned with another stadium somewhere on the island (you’d imagine Cork if the GAA play ball during the height of their season, which combined with the politics around using their stadiums for “foreign games”, is a huge ask tbf).

Honestly it’s a mix of a lot of things. There is jealously towards the home nations permanent seats on IFAB, the FA is a terribly run organisation that has historically struggled with diplomacy and of course money.

The Euros bid will be similar with the English end probably shrunk a little because you can’t shrink the others or they wouldn’t be there!

Even across the 2 nations and 5 countries it would work well given the stadia and experience of running big sporting events are there across both islands and nowhere is really further than a one hour flight away and often no more than a two hour train ride.

That and they’re the countries where there is the passion for the game to the point that they’ll fill stadiums for less appealing games involving teams from miles away with smaller travelling numbers.
 
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mgp said:
I think, like everything with FIFA, it comes back to money. One interesting graphic I saw yesterday. 1994 is still the most attended World Cup of all time (despite 12 fewer games). 2026 will shatter this.

The joint bid is messy, and travel in US (for teams and for fans) could be a real disaster, but it's going to be great for FIFA.

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I'm saving up for the $50 beers in the stadium now o_O
 
wokeupnew said:
I'm saving up for the $50 beers in the stadium now o_O
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Given inflation and current event beer prices you might want to save some more….

BTW do FIFA allow alcohol sales at their sanctioned matches? I know UEFA do not, it’s 0.0% even if the venue would normally sell booze.
 
wokeupnew said:
I’d have taken one away from Texas and/or one away from the east coast to give it to Chicago and move Kansas City to Denver. But I wonder if Fifa were concerned about altitude maybe?
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Chicago tapped out early I believe. Not sure why Denver didn't progress further but Kansas City is a great selection. The United States owes a huge debt for the rise of soccer in the country to Lamar Hunt so it's great that Kansas City is getting some matches. And the two Texas venues makes me think Houston gets an opening round and JerryWorld gets the semis with the winner of the Houston bracket.

This part is the more wild aspect of the venues that got the matches over older grass pitches like the Cotton Bowl and Rose Bowl. But hey, we gotta have suites and domes in the summer. Also interesting that Phoenix got left out when their stadium has a grass field that can be moved in and out of the stadium.



And let's hope Jerry Jones decides this isn't acceptable when the keeper gets blinded by the sun.

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Joe Mac said:
Given inflation and current event beer prices you might want to save some more….

BTW do FIFA allow alcohol sales at their sanctioned matches? I know UEFA do not, it’s 0.0% even if the venue would normally sell booze.
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I don't know, but I feel like they have to. People would lose their minds over here if they're not allowed to drink at a sporting event.
 
mdmost said:
Chicago tapped out early I believe. Not sure why Denver didn't progress further but Kansas City is a great selection. The United States owes a huge debt for the rise of soccer in the country to Lamar Hunt so it's great that Kansas City is getting some matches. And the two Texas venues makes me think Houston gets an opening round and JerryWorld gets the semis with the winner of the Houston bracket.

This part is the more wild aspect of the venues that got the matches over older grass pitches like the Cotton Bowl and Rose Bowl. But hey, we gotta have suites and domes in the summer. Also interesting that Phoenix got left out when their stadium has a grass field that can be moved in and out of the stadium.



And let's hope Jerry Jones decides this isn't acceptable when the keeper gets blinded by the sun.

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I've seen some footballing people that I follow on twitter already talk about how temperatures in Dallas/Houston/Atlanta are ridiculous. Pretty sure these people are UK based so current temps are insane from their POV. Most of the stadiums are indoors with air conditioning, but that doesn't mean getting to and from the stadium for the fans is any better in that heat. I wonder if Arizona temps in the summer was a reason against it?
 
wokeupnew said:
I've seen some footballing people that I follow on twitter already talk about how temperatures in Dallas/Houston/Atlanta are ridiculous. Pretty sure these people are UK based so current temps are insane from their POV. Most of the stadiums are indoors with air conditioning, but that doesn't mean getting to and from the stadium for the fans is any better in that heat. I wonder if Arizona temps in the summer was a reason against it?
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It’s more from a playing perspective. It’s a winter game for most of the world and playing in those temperatures kinda murders the intensity of the matches. It’s why Qatar is in November because fuck playing football in the 40s!
 
Joe Mac said:
It’s more from a playing perspective. It’s a winter game for most of the world and playing in those temperatures kinda murders the intensity of the matches. It’s why Qatar is in November because fuck playing football in the 40s!
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but the Qatar stadiums will have air conditioning too. Kind of pointless moving it if they have AC. Plus they just held the last two playoffs Australia/Peru and NZ/Costa Rica in Qatar in the summer. They players will be fine in the temps inside the stadiums. The movement of it has to be for everyone else around the WC because if you're not inside it's miserable.
 
wokeupnew said:
but the Qatar stadiums will have air conditioning too. Kind of pointless moving it if they have AC. Plus they just held the last two playoffs Australia/Peru and NZ/Costa Rica in Qatar in the summer. They players will be fine in the temps inside the stadiums. The movement of it has to be for everyone else around the WC because if you're not inside it's miserable.
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I think the players unions were in revolt over it tbh. Plus yes totally miserable, I have family who live and work in the Middle East and the pretty much take the whole summer off and come back to Scotland because it’s intollerable for us Northern Europeans 😂
 
wokeupnew said:
Idk about that, Kansas City is even smaller population-wise, it makes even less sense. If anything you'd pick St. Louis in the same state which is a bigger metro and historically more important. Denver definitely has the capacity and facilities to host matches, they must have just not wanted to for whatever reason ($$$)
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Arrowhead will probably see some upgrades, but it's still going to be steamy out there since it has no roof. The Dome in St. Louis is serviceable but outdated and no where near what would be needed to host matches.

I think it would be fun to fly into Chicago, take the train down to St. Louis then over to KC as a visitor. Three really fun cities with plenty to see and do. If money and time are no object.
 
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